General Chat

Merlin, can't say I remember those, sounds interesting though !! I must be too young...... lol.

Cath xx

Anybody remember when they had "Smoke Rooms" in pubs?
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I play Crown Green bowls outdoors.Smoking was banned about eight years ago now.I haven't played so well since,having a smoke used to help me concentrate.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

I think, if they brought back smoking in pubs, there'd be less drunkeness,
People who smoke tend to 'nurse' their drink whilst they smoke & ponder!

A friend came up with a good point. He thinks people now use mobile phones in the same way they used a cigarette - he's noticed that when unsure, people reach for their mobile where once they reached for a fag!

.....and in all reality, we don't know the long-term problems mobiles may cause - there's been a rise in brain cancer in Austraila in the past 20 years.

i agree about not smoking in restaraunts..or anyplace you eat cafes pubs..

what about the drinkers stinking of booze ..it makes me feel just the same as a smoker stinking of ciggies lol ..

The government dont't really want smokers to give up. "Smokers taxes" generate a lot of money for them to fritter away. I am all for the ban in restaurants but not in pubs. I have read in the past of smokers being pushed down hospital waiting lists which is unfair. These days smokers know the risks they face and if they choose to continue that is their right.
Agree with Suzian. Lets live and let live.

Cath xx

About to light up first of the day.

Look, we are supposed to live in a free society. I've no wish to impose my smoking on those who don't choose to smoke. I'd quite happily restrict myself to places where smoking is allowed. All you'd have to do is to choose to stay away.

I'm a sensible adult who's made an adult choice. I'm fully aware of the risks I run. My life, my health, my choice.

Just like every motorist who chooses to drive a car, every sportsman who chooses to risk injury, every un-healthy eater who chooses to buy too many take-aways.

I have no wish to force my choices on you - please afford me the same courtesy.

Sue x

Eddie you have missed the point - your view will not solve the g'ments problem!!!!!! lol

The problem about Pensioners will be solve. They are going to recomend that when they get slightly ill they are sent to that Hospital in Stafford,They will sort the problem out easy.**M**.:o)>

As a cigarette / tobacco user, you are a nicotine addict, a drug addict. I would have thought that you'd be happy about getting free nicotine gum or patches. You save the money you would have spent on tobacco (and you wont smell like an ashtray) - what a bargain!

Mary and Pat - as to taxes some 35 years ago I worked in a small (850 employees) tobacco manufacturing factory. The system then (it has changed since) that a cheque to cover tax had to be given to Customs & Excise (who were there on site) by noon each day in order to release the leaf from Bond for the following days production. One minute past noon was too late.

Each week the second signator changed (always a top manager) and regularly I would be seen dashing like a mad thing around the factory trying to find my boss in order for the cheque to be signed in time. The amount? In those days a mere £250,000 - £300,000. Remember this was one small factory in UK. The time early to mide seventies. It was always well known that the smoking taxes more than paid for the NHS several times over but the anti-smoking lobby only ever quoted the cost of smoking related diseases.

Sue, there is an uninhabited Island off the coast, Unfortunately it was used to test "Anthrax" many years ago,so not worth the risk going there.**M**.

Cooper, as a smoker, I do so agree with you re smoking being banned in restaurants, but not pubs.
But I remember well going to a small pub some years ago, where you had your meal in the main room of the pub. We stopped smoking whilst others next to us, had their meal. Afterwards, we wanted to have a cigarette with our drinks, and it was made obvious, that we should not. After all, we had gone to have a drink and cigarette to wind down. The gesture should have been reciprocated.
Julia in Derbyshire

Im not a smoker and never have been, It didnt do my Nan or Mum much good however..........

Everyone has a choice if they want to smoke or not.
Pubs are not what they used to be since the ban, and are closing down and loosing money.
There is less tax being generated.
And pubs are a lot less fun nowadays,empty and full of the under 30s.

I agree that smoking should be banned in restaraunts but pubs, never.

Teresa

A couple of weeks ago, I was in hospital on the Surgical Assessment Unit.
As I lay there, having just had the IV lines taken out, but with morphine canula still in, I saw this man walk down the ward. I was just about to face my first solids when he appeared at the side of my bed. "I see, from your notes, you are a smoker" he said, and I agreed. "How do you manage when your in here, and have you thought of giving up".
Well just at that moment all I was thinking about was getting rid of the excrutiating pain He said he was employed by the NHS to encourage people to give up. He was not a doctor or a nurse, but had looked at my notes.
The upshot was, that I told him I was at that moment sucking a Nicotine tablet, and once I was stable, I would have a walk to the in house Boots, and buy some more. "Oh no need, I'll get them prescribed for you", and he did.
I felt pounced upon,and taken advantage of, whilst I was still in a very a pianful and vulnerable state. Talk about a captive audience.
Julia in Derbyshire

*lights a cig*........and replies to DIZZI and Pat Kendrick :-))))

I heard a radio interview a few years ago, (can't remember who was being interviewed but he was a health minister or something like that), the interviewer asked....... *how much of the tax raised on tobacco products goes in to the NHS, and how much of that is used to treat smoking related diseases?*

The guy replied *about 90% of the tax raised goes in to the NHS and about 30% of that money is used for treating smoking related diseases*

So needless to say, the next day when I went in to work, I took great delight in telling my non smoking work colleague that I had probably paid for her recent hip replacement and that she should be grateful to me - and not keep moaning about me smoking! LOL

Mary

A few weeks back I was having a lovely chat with my doctor, about this and that, as you do lol.

Got talking about smoking/living healthy lifestyle etc......and he said that (in his opinion, with hindsight) the medical profession had got it wrong!

The gist of what he said went like this........."we (the medical profession) have spent so much money on treatments, and the prevention of, heart disease/strokes etc and getting people to live longer healthier lives, but at what cost? All we have really achieved is to condemn people to living longer but with Altzhimers (sp) and dementia."

And quite frankly I agree with him........I'd love to live to a ripe old age, - but not at the cost of suffering with dementia!

Mary

Holland have brought back smoking in pubs that are owned by the proprieter.

I think smokers in the 70's paid for all the NHS in taxes. A couple of years ago I read that of the 8 billion tax paid by smokers it was only costing the NHS 1 billion for health related problems.

Now don't you feel good we are supporting the NHS LOL.

Seriously though pubs used to have a bar (usually occupied by men ) plus a smoke room and a snug used by non smokers. It's alarming how many pubs are closing and this is with the licensing hours extended.

The pubs seemed to be themed for youngsters and there are not many thaT YOU CAN GO TO TO TALK, MUSIC IS FAR TO LOUD. a QUITE EVENING AT A PUB IS A THING OF THE PAST.
Sorry didn't mean to shout accidently clicked on cap lock.

Are we allowed to smoke on this thread? If so, I'll join in :-)

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW THEY SPEND THE TAX ON CIGGIS MONEY

PERHAPS THEY COULD TELL US

HOW THEY SPEND
MY MONEY