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Kind lady found the two children i was looking for ,but i have had alook on freebmd for the deathes of my Aunt and uncle but come up with nothing there names were
Fredrerick Pery Gooch and Helen May Gooch maiden name Morgan,the last information i have was on her parents will where they were living in Redhill Reigate Surrey that was in 1924,can anyone help me with this please no matter how small ,thank you
Dutch

Morning Dutch:o)

How are you??

l used to work with a Hillary Gooch, l think she still works in the same place. Not sure where she originates from.....if its local then there are alot of Morgans in this area too.

Take care
Love
jude xx

When were they both born, I see their marriage was in 1917?

Helen had been transcribed as Harry so I have submitted a correction.

Marriages Sep 1917 (>99%)
Gooch Frederick P Morgan Reigate 2a 509
Morgan Harry M Gooch Reigate 2a 509

Christine

Hi Jude
not doing to bad just dont sleep at night for the realy bad cramps in my feet but could be worse,the only thing i dont like is having to be push round in wheel chair because of my spine but in so much pain when i try to walk so just have to put up with it LOL
The Morgans came from London Helen is my Dads sister just trying to fill the gaps in for the family tree,how are you hows your sister doing and your son ,hope there both getting better
Love Dutchxx

Hi Christine
thats there marriage as i have cert also Helens birth cert she was born 9th May 1894 at 2 Adelaide Villas East Barnet counties of Middlesex and Herford ,but dont no were Frederick was born or when as there both 23 yrs old i think he may have been born the same year?
Dutch

They had two daughters Edith M Morgan born Dec 1919 in Reigate and Ivy V Morgan Sept 1921 in Reigate.Morgan being her maiden name

This is the only death I can find which matches approx with birth year.

Deaths Mar 1934 (>99%)
Gooch Frederick P 39 Norwich 4b 203

I haven't found one for Helen as yet.

Christine

If the above death is correct Helen could have remarried.

Marriages Dec 1939 (>99%)

Coates James Gooch Wandsworth 1d 1793
Gooch Helen M Coates Wandsworth 1d 1793

This death fits with her birthdate.

Name: Helen May Coates
Birth Date: 9 May 1894
Death Registration Month/Year: 1981 Qtr 3
Registration district: Merton
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 14
Page: 0984


Christine

Thank you Christine i will order the marriage cert to find out ,could i ask you please are there any marriages for her two daughters ?

Haven't found obvious marriages but have found this death.

Name: Edith May Gooch
Birth Date: 19 Sep 1919
Death Registration Month/Year: 1975
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 14
Page: 0306

Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
Gooch Edith M Morgan Reigate 2a 363

Christine

Thank you Christine ,mybe they did,nt get married will also send for Helens death cert as well if i dont reply right away ,its because i cant sit to long but will get back to you or anyone in afew hours
Dutch

Christine just to let you no i got the certs today the death cert was right one and so was the marriage one ,the only problem was they had put different marriage cert in so had to ring them up and they going to send me the right one,it was her daughter Ivy who was the informant on her mums death cert was does this mean widow of James joseph Coates custodian,Ministry of works .97 Robinson road S.W 17 was that his job?
and thank you Dutch

nudge it up so Christine can see it

have tried to find information on Ivy Voilet Gooch born 1921 but so far come up with nothing ,have looked on freeBMD and ancestry can anyone help please thank you

Pleased to hear it was the correct death cert.

Was her daughter Ivy unmarried when she registered the death?

Christine

Hi Christine
I dont think she was married as her name is Gooch on the cert and that was 1981
Dutch

I can't find a death but they are only up to 2005.

She could have died after that or could still be alive.

Christine

Think this could be Frederick P Gooch's Birth

BMD Search result details
Civil Registration event: Birth


Name: GOOCH, Frederick Percy
Registration District: Help Croydon
County: Surrey
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: Help 2A
Page No: Help 248

1901 Census for Frederick

1901 census - household transcription
Person: GOOCH, Frederick P
Address: 11, Sheldon Street, Croydon

Cost:
You will be charged 5 credits for a transcript and 5 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.


census search results all search results redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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GOOCH, Frederick S F Head Married M 33 1868 Police Constable
Kirstead
Norfolk VIEW
GOOCH, Edith S Wife Married F 31 1870
Reading
Berkshire VIEW
GOOCH, Frederick P Son M 6 1895 Scholar
Croydon
Surrey VIEW
EDLIN, Edith Adopted Daughter F 3 1898 Labourer (Gas Works)
Croydon
Surrey VIEW
GOOCH, Simon Cousin M 22 1879
Bungay
Norfolk VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
638 Folio:
66 Page:
4

Registration District:
Croydon Sub District:
Croydon Enumeration District:
21 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St John the Baptist

Civil Parish:
Croydon Municipal Borough:
Address:
11, Sheldon Street, Croydon County:
Surrey

1911 Census for Frederick

1911 census - household transcription
Person: GOOCH, Frederick
Address: 82 Atlantic Road Brixton S W

Cost:
You will be charged 5 credits for a transcript and 10 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.


census search results all search results redefine current search
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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GOOCH, Fredrick Head Married
17 years M 44 1867 General Labourers Police Pensioner Printing Works Norfolk Parish of Kirstead VIEW
GOOCH, Edith Wife Married F 42 1869 Berks Inglefield VIEW
GOOCH, Frederick Son Single M 16 1895 Warehouseman Surrey Croydon VIEW
GOOCH, Edith Daughter F 13 1898 Surrey Croydon VIEW
GOOCH, Edward Son Single M 8 1903 Surrey Croydon VIEW
GOOCH, Dorris Daughter Single F 2 1909 Surrey Camberwell VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2091 Reference:
RG14PN2091 RG78PN72 RD25 SD4 ED42 SN10

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Brixton Enumeration District:
42 Parish:
Lambeth

Address:
82 Atlantic Road Brixton S W County:
London



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On the marriage cert it should say who his father is,,think this will match the father's name on the cert..