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Maureen

Maureen Report 14 Mar 2011 18:12

Took a quick look at ours and put it away again. Oh boy, it's a wonder they don't ask what you had for breakfast!
Suppose it will be ok when I finally get round to it.
Maureen

Denis

Denis Report 14 Mar 2011 09:30

Rita, the term "United Kingdom" includes Northern Ireland.

hotchoc

hotchoc Report 13 Mar 2011 16:17

Oh dear my aunt has already done hers and sent it back! will she get into trouble?

Joan

Joan Report 13 Mar 2011 16:07

Oh dear, clear as mud. I will speak with the hospital administrator tomorrow.
Paracetamol anyone ??????
Joan

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 12 Mar 2011 21:48

From 2011 census site....... Frequently asked questions......

24. What if a relative who usually lives with me is in hospital on census day? Could a nurse or carer do the questionnaire for them?
If your relative has been in hospital for six months or more, they will be given an individual questionnaire to complete by someone in the hospital, such as a manager.

If they are only temporarily in hospital (and will have been there for less than six months) you should include them on your household questionnaire.

If needed, another member of the family, a friend, or member of hospital staff could complete the questionnaire on their behalf.

McB

McB Report 12 Mar 2011 21:40

It's not supposed to be filled in till the 27 March or after.

cane

cane Report 12 Mar 2011 21:04

Hi all........well i might not be answering all the questions on mine,its just not realistic,well is it ?....think there was only abt four questions on the 1841 census....so whats changed,only thing i can see is that they will bring back the workhouse,and they are means testing us,eigther way its to benefit the government......and get us all ready for something big and worrying....

InspectorGreenPen

InspectorGreenPen Report 12 Mar 2011 20:27

No. You are only head counted the once, on the return for your main place of residence, but the fact that you are away from home has to be recorded on the john fowler's holiday camp return.

ally6740

ally6740 Report 12 Mar 2011 18:30

my family and i are a way that weekend at a john fowlers hoilday camp..so we will be on the censes twice ?

InspectorGreenPen

InspectorGreenPen Report 12 Mar 2011 17:20

Rita,

It used to be the case that you only appeared on one form, but that is not necessarily the case this year. The 'old' rule that you had to be present on the night to be counted at the address has changed rather.

Everyone has to appear on the census for the address where they are usually resident, i.e. their home, whether or not they are actually present on the night or not.

In addition, those away from home on the night will additionally appear as visitors for the address they are actually at.

Special arrangements apply for institutions, residential homes and university residences. Special Enumerators will deal with these establishments because of the added complexity in making sure all the residents have completed a return.

Other examples where you may have to fill in more than one return, irrespective of whether you were actually present or not are:-

Where you own or rent a second or holiday home

If you work away from home during the week and rent or own a flat or other accommodation.

Joan

Joan Report 12 Mar 2011 14:08

I am a nurse and work nights.
If I am working Sunday 27th march nights; I suppose that will mean more work for me. Am I right in thinking that all staff, patients and whoever is in the building will have to be on the form for the hospital AND on their home forms ?
Joan

ally6740

ally6740 Report 12 Mar 2011 12:23

found one .....for 2001 ...what were you doing 29 th april

ally6740

ally6740 Report 12 Mar 2011 12:01

mine arrived this morning (post office has till nxt wednesday to deliver them) so my friendly post man in formed me going to scan mine for my family records.....with added note of where my children are that dont live with me are ...any one got the 2001 census form ???
internet wasnt so good then lol

InspectorGreenPen

InspectorGreenPen Report 12 Mar 2011 11:00

The fact is that whilst a lot of the information is available in various places it is not in a form that the ONS can currently use or in some case even access, nor is it complete for the entire population, hence the need for at least another one census. It is my belief that during the next ten years a means of pulling together all the bits of info which may or may not yet be out there will be worked on.

The reason you shoot yourself in the foot by not co-operating is that like it or otherwise, the census data that is collected WILL be used as the main planning tool, not the data that 'They' allegedly have out there.

Unfortunately, the census can not be used to identify those here unofficially, even if we wanted it to, as personal information is not available to even the government for - in the case of the 2011 census - 100 years.

Look at the official website - there is a lot of useful info on there

Eddieisagrandad

Eddieisagrandad Report 12 Mar 2011 09:45

The fact is they do not need the "snapshot" as you put it.
They already have all the information they need, so no, it is not "shooting ones self in the foot" at all.
I think it is more likely a case of costing more to cancel the project than to continue with it.
What would be far more important is a census o all the people that are in Britain unofficially, not those of us that are tracked virtually every minute of every day.

InspectorGreenPen

InspectorGreenPen Report 12 Mar 2011 06:19

Karen, A Census Collector will only call if you fail to submit a return or submit a blank return. They will not call if you miss out the odd answer. However, failing to complete the form properly is a bit like shooting your own foot. You, your family and your neighbours are the ones that loose out in the long run.

InspectorGreenPen

InspectorGreenPen Report 12 Mar 2011 06:13

The census provides a high quality estimate of the population. It is a count of all people and households in England and Wales and is carried out by the Office for National Statistics (ONS). Everyone is asked the same questions on the same day in order to take a snapshot of the population at one point in time. The statistics describe the population at national, regional and local levels.

This level of detail is not currently available from any other data sources.

The information collected on the questionnaires is used to help government and local authorities plan the services and resources people need, such as transport, housing, healthcare and education. The amount of money your council has to spend on these important services is based on population statistics from the census. That is why it is so important that everyone takes part.

Shelly,

If you complete on line you won't need the continuation form.

http://www.census.gov.uk/

The site also has Help pages on how to fill it in and loads of information as to why the census is so important, how the questions have evolved and how the information collected will be used.

Dame*Shelly*(

Dame*Shelly*("\(*o*)/") Report 12 Mar 2011 02:39

Iv still got to phone them and ask for an exra form as there are 7 of us in this house and only 6 name on the form

and im still woundering as to what name i should put my daughter down as

Karen in the desert

Karen in the desert Report 11 Mar 2011 20:32

May I just mention BCC, that if you decide to leave out answers to questions, someone from the Census team will phone or visit you about it.
I've recently been speaking to someone who went on the Census team course for just such a job - visiting all those households which have posted back incomplete forms, because, by law, we are required to fill them out .
:-)

K

Eddieisagrandad

Eddieisagrandad Report 11 Mar 2011 19:59

They already know exactly where you work BCC, after all you pay NI and taxes. In fact there is absolutely nothing in this census that they don't know already or cannot find from other sources., hence this probably being the last census.
As for being about where you live and local councils - I don't think so. We pay our council taxes, water, gas and electric bills and we are mostly on the electral roll. Do you really think they don't know where every one of us lives already?
It is a massive and obcene waste of public money.