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interesting...how we need so much paperwork now than heresay .....and trust !!!

sam x

Relative went to solicitors had to take an older relative who could confirm and an Affidavit was sworn. He gave me a copy of Deed Poll for tree. Never seen one before or since.

this is all good ....x

sam x

ok.....folks ive had a conversation with deedpoll head office!!!! today....

re;.....my grandfather changed his name by deedpoll
then had 2 children under born name given (not the otherway around)but heresay named the children and wife under new given name with no paperwork to find!!

this was the problem couldnt see paper trail for change of name for the 2 children and wife...

this was all in the 1930s...

apparently untill ten years ago so im told it wasnt needed to be documented for change of name and if you see any listings in londongazette.com which i may add is extemely usefull this was paid for to be publicaly published....if you wanted

so what happened was you went to the doctors (to authenticate) or solicitors to confim your new name !! simples!!!....but often no other paperwork to officially prove change of name!!! so in alot of cases you wouldnt have anypaperwork to find...
so makes alot of deedpoll name changes difficult to find ....so hope this helps to pass on the knowledge...
sam x

thanks for your help......very much appreciate this...
kindest regards
sam x

Relative changed by Deed Poll as soon as he was 18. Solicitor told him it would be easier in the future if he had an official document although legally you can use any name you wish.

If he had had children they would have been known in his new name. Just come across this in family tree couple of weeks ago. Relative changed name before wedding - so wife and children all bear new name which is why I could not find him for years!!!

so children born after fathers name change if different from birth name would need to have documents????

I chamged my name by Statutory Declaration. Basically this is telling a solicitor that one wishes to change ones name and the solicitor signs a sheet of A4 to the effect that from now on Joe Bloggs is to be known as John Doe.
My first son has a copy of the Declaration "just in case" anyone queries who he is as his birth cert. has my previous surname. Both of his passports however are in the surname that I took when I changed my name.
My other children and my adopted children use my "new" surname although both this and my first name have changed again considerably since the declaration.
In all my name has changed 4 times. My original birth name, my adoptive name, the name I changed to and the one I mostly use now.

so they would needed to have a separate document too?
sam x

i didnt realise the children would be mentioned too ? in the same document? ...as i have the londongazette document to state the change ..there is no mention of any children to the same effect,.....

the 2 children we speak of is my dad and his brother ....they are on the birth certficate ,..the birth name ..and it seems there is no documents for deedpoll paperwork either of them as my dad married my mum under the name change from his father so hense i thought they would have documents.....?? how would of he obtained a passport for the name changed by his father??..
sam x

As far as I know, father's deed poll would not apply to any of his previous children unless they were mentioned in the same document.

Edit - I believe they would need their own Deed Poll. If over 16 it is their responsibility otherwise their legal parent can consent.

no body seems to know???
sam x

thanks for this ...but it i need to know that

as my grandfather changed his name by deedpoll after his 2 children were born in their teens..so would their need to be doucumemnts for the children????
sam x

As long as you are not attempting to pervert the course of justice, you can call yourself by whatever name you choose. At least that is the theory.

However, the minute you attempt to do anything which requires you to prove who you are, such as applying for a passport, or getting married, you need to provide documentary evidence, such as a copy of a deed poll or earlier marriage certificate to link your current name back to that on your birth certificate.

I met and married my first husband and had 2 children.Sadly, first husband died.

A few years later I met and married my present husband and had a child.

Older children wanted to change their surname to that of my present husband. I thought that they would regret this in laterlife so discouraged any legal change, either by deed poll or adoption but said they could do it when they were older if they still wanted to.

Both became known by my husbands surname including banks, doctors etc but in schoolthey were known as " A known as D".

When they left school they reverted to their Dad's surname wich has caused much confusion to their school friends who had always known them with the surname of "D" because we moved house to another town after their first name change :))

i appreciate your help...
sam x

I know someone who met a chap and they had a baby together. She was known by his surname.
They decided to marry, so the registration looks like 2 related family members married each other, because the surnames were the same.

Gwyn

or smith....and so on......lol ...

my dad and his brother were born after the name change...so wouldnt there be paperwork ?
sam x

i thought as you can call yourelf anything you like when it comes to legal transactions and signing legal documents you had to use your real birth name....
awww gosh...
help!
sam

I'm not 100% that the man who changed his name also had paperwork for his wife and child or if they just became known by his surname.

I think you can marry in a name that you are usually known by, even if it's not a birth name.

Man above had surname (let's call it A, which is what he used at marriage to Miss B.,,,,, they were Mr and Mrs A, with baby A

Man changed his surname to C, wife was Mrs C and they had baby who became. C
Later children born to them had surname C.

Parents divorced, mother remarried and children with surname C then took surname of new husband D

Daughter married using surname D, which was not her father's birth name, nor his later surname, but was the surname she was known by.

.......... and I thought my JONES and DAVIES would be my most difficult to follow !!

Gwyn

so some were there is paper work.... i will have to dig abit more...
sam x