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John you may be interested in these threads about the same family that someone else posted a few years ago

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/records_office/thread/969074

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/tips_board/thread/726516


also 4 people besides yourself and that person have Felix Baker born 1826-1827 (and one Felix born 1924 in 'England I think') in their trees here at genesreunited, do you know all of them?


and here again is a case where the name in the 1911 census has been corrected by an Ancestry user in 2012 and that person can be contacted through the Ancestry site if you don't know them in case they are part of the family

This looks like a possible marriage for Percy Edward Baker:

Marriages Dec 1901
Abell Mary Edith Ledbury 6a 1011
Baker Percy Edward Ledbury 6a 1011

and this could be his death, as there were very few births for Percy E Baker's:

Percy E Baker
Birth Date: abt 1878
Date of Registration: Dec 1953
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Coventry
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 672

and this would be a matching death for his wife in the same place

Name: Mary E Baker
Birth Date: abt 1876
Date of Registration: Mar 1962
Age at Death: 86
Registration district: Coventry
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 1014

Births Mar 1904
Baker Elsie Jane Ledbury 6a 469

Marriages Mar 1931
Baker Elsie J Coombs Bristol 6a 122
Coombs George S Baker Bristol 6a 122

Name: Elsie Jane Coombs
Birth Date: 24 Dec 1903
Date of Registration: Mar 1971
Age at Death: 67
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 595


probable birth to the marriage, you can find it at freebmd as Coombs with mother Baker in Bristol

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Births Mar 1908
Baker Florence Penelope Newent 6a 294

Marriages Sep 1935
Baker Florence P Bolwell Bristol 6a 416
Bolwell Arthur A Baker Bristol 6a 416

Name: Florence Penelope Bolwell
Birth Date: 12 Jan 1908
Date of Registration: Mar 1990
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: West Super Mare
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 22
Page: 1401


births to the marriage, you can find them at freebmd as Bolwell with mother Baker in Bristol

I could not find a birth for Mary Edith Abell.

Added:
Unless she really deceived him as to her age:
Births Jun 1867
Abell Mary Edith Stoke D. 5b 345

(In Hereford in 1881 census - but marries in Plymouth in 1888?)

this seems to be our girl in 1901

Name: Mary E Abell
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Croydon
Civil Parish: Yarkhill
Ecclesiastical parish: Yarkhill
Town: Newtown
County/Island: Herefordshire

Mary E Abell 25 widowed
Edith Abell 5 born Yarkhill


but I didn't see a Mary Edith to Abell marriage ...

Name: Mary Edith Abell
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1901
Registration District: Ledbury
County: Herefordshire
Event Place: Ledbury, Herefordshire, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911):
Volume: 6A
Page: 1011
Line Number: 130


Mary Edith Abell probably married one of the following people
Name: Percy Edward Baker

we have that on page 1 Ann

it's a previous marriage for Mary Edith if any that's needed ...

this is not too far from Hereford

Name: Edith Mary Abel
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1873
Registration District: Bromsgrove
County: Worcestershire
Event Place: Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3):
Volume: 6C
Page: 406
Line Number: 167

????????????

Name: Mary Edith Abell
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1867
Registration District: Stoke Damerel
County: Devon
Event Place: Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3):
Volume: 5B
Page: 345
Line Number: 191

if she had been married before then would she have married Baker in the name of Abell?

Name: Mary Edith Abell
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1888
Registration District: Plymouth
County: Devon
Event Place: Plymouth, Devon, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911):
Volume: 5B
Page: 438
Line Number: 88

Mary Edith Abell probably married one of the following people

Name: George Mellis

Births Dec 1895
Abell Edith Ledbury 6a 415


1911

Name: Edith Abel
Age in 1911: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Niece
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Yarkhill, Herefordshire, England
Civil Parish: All Saints
County/Island: Herefordshire

Thomas Owen Thomas 32
Sarah Jane Thomas 28
Annie Elizabeth Thomas 45 sister single
Theresa Annie Chambers 22 sister in law single
Edith Abel 15


but no Thomas or Chambers marriage to Abel or Abell to fit

Ann, the idea was that Abell was possibly a married name ...

you have posted the same Mary Edith Abell birth and marriage in Devon as patchem posted above


it probably doesn't matter at all who Mary Edith was (also, she was called Mary Ann in 1911 ... unless that was not the Mary Edith he married ...)

except to find out whether there were more children of Percy Edward/Edwin after 1911

thank you for what you ladies have done [gents] its been a real hard one this has its opened up a lot on ancestry I have mailed 2 people about Edwin it looks like they know a bit about Edwin
THANKYOU john