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Florence61

Florence61 Report 17 Jul 2023 21:05

I got an email notifying me of a message so I wont miss one as i check my emails several times a day.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 17 Jul 2023 17:23

I don't know how MH indicate message but the Ancestry one is easy to miss.

Florence61

Florence61 Report 17 Jul 2023 16:39

names, I guess it does take time to reply but some of these people have been on the site as it tells you the last time they visited! So they must have seen my message.

Oh well, shall just plod on with my own trees and find a few stray twigs to add on .

The most difficult thing is where a gr grandparent has married 3 times and had children in all 3 marriages! No wonder my head is scrambled lol

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 17 Jul 2023 12:47

You know from here that it can take ages for a reply and as I said a few weeks ago many of those that did a dna test have absolutely no interest.
Only one person ever made a first contact with me ( we couldn’t see a match).
I’ve sent out loads many don’t answer. One person didn’t reply and closed acccess to his tree. But I did know who he was and where he fitted in. Maybe he didn’t like me pointing out a common mistake.

Florence61

Florence61 Report 17 Jul 2023 11:27

Well I have sent at least a dozen messages to some matches and not 1 has replied!! I'm finding it a bit disheartening tbh.

I have spent hours trying to work out connections but struggling now.

One 3rd cousin, I dont know their name or their shared DNA name. So I searched their origins on FMP on both sides and went back 3 generations but to no avail?? The surnames listed I have never heard of.

If the ones I messaged would reply, then at least I might connect with them somewhere.

Florence in the hebrides

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 6 Jul 2023 15:03

I know the feeling. I skied my brother( he’d been given a test,) if he’d give me access to his results. I think he must still be thinking about it

Florence61

Florence61 Report 6 Jul 2023 14:44

Names, I did ask him but he's not interested, he said "I know all my family and don't need to know all the distant cousins etc."

I have a 3rd cousin in Fife who I recently emailed and asked her and she said she will think about it, but she is related through my mums mothers family and I do have a lot of that family tree done already.

I wish I could convince someone closer to me to take the test but I seem to be the only one interested in Genealogy!

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 6 Jul 2023 13:40

Well done! Hard work pays off.
Why not ask your Dad to take an ancestry test, you could then download it to MH. It is always said it is a really good idea to test your older relatives as they will be that little bit closer to your own match.

Florence61

Florence61 Report 6 Jul 2023 13:36

Btw, I'm not intending to post every result in finding a connection on this thread, it was just the 1st one I had sorted!

Florence61

Florence61 Report 6 Jul 2023 13:35

Well I have a result!

I have managed after reworking back that the 2nd cousin is on my grt grandmothers side of the family. That is my father's grandmother. I worked back to his grt grandad my grt grt grandad. I then looked at the census and found the connection to me.

My grt grandma had a number of siblings and one brother married who produced a daughter and this person married who is the connection to the DNA match.

I had looked at my grandmother's, mother's family origin but have not done her mothers tree.

It took some looking but so glad I found out how we are related.

When grt grandma married into the "Prophet" family, I did start that family tree but still working on it.But she obviously comes from another side.

I asked dad if he remembers his grandmother as a boy and he does ,but does not remember meeting any of the aunties or cousins sadly.

Oh well, a good ending to finding a match and a connection :-D

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 5 Jul 2023 16:00

Thanks Kense must read it through properly
. I think his materclass is excellent, but I have been noticing he is leaving off one of his charts. The one that gives a % againest a range of cms and then which level of relative you would probably find. That one sometime helps me get my head around it, easier to follow than some of the other charts.

Edit: just checked my folder and the table I was thinking of came from another on line article - Autosomal DNA Statistics / ISOGG Wiki

Kense

Kense Report 5 Jul 2023 15:45

The latest Lost Cousins newsletter contains an updated version of the DNA Masterclass

https://www.lostcousins.com/newsletters2/jul23news.htm#Masterclass

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 27 Jun 2023 15:05

Florence, have you looked at the filters yet? You can choose different ones to sort the matches. Or you can search for a family name, try one of your less common ones.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 27 Jun 2023 11:46

Your joint ancestor with a third cousin is your great great grandparent. Not everyone can or can be bothered to work back that far.

If you don’t know who’s the 3rd cousins are be mindful that the algorithm has come up with that and they might be a 2nd cousin so many times removed.

It is a minefield especially when you add in the false postives.

Edited. Just looked at the last email from MH. Says the match could be 4th Cousins daughter, 5th Cousin or 4th cousin. How on earth is one supposed to work that one out. Actually at under 30 cms I shan't be bothering to try.

Florence61

Florence61 Report 27 Jun 2023 10:50

Last night, I looked at a couple of matches that say we are 3rd cousins. So one is from UK, I did look to see who we share our DNA with and it lists the names on their tree but none I know.

There is one from the USA and her name has popped up many times although have no idea who she is.

On my mum's mums side, I have that part of the family tree but only the branch I'm from. The rest of that tree is colossal.

I have 1 3rd cousin in Edinburgh who is on a different branch but of the same tree so going to email her and see if she has done the test but if not, she has done her own branch of that tree so it may just shed some light...hopefully.

In all of these shared matches that I have looked(about 20 so far), it says none have any of the 4 family names that I'm associated with so I can only think, they must be very distant relations?

Anyway off to mail my cousin and see where that leads me.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 27 Jun 2023 08:53

Annoyingly those people probably haven’t added trees. Have you looked at the shared matches.
Hopefully MH will follow Ancestry and tell you which side your matches are from.

Could you try asking a cousin to do a test, their results would then give you the hint of which side your own matches come from.

added: forgot your cousins aren't interested. Could you try making up a tree f ro your matches.

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 26 Jun 2023 18:48

By checking the family trees and comparing with yours. Also check if you have any names in common. You might also consider if you both have ancestors who came from the same district.

Florence61

Florence61 Report 26 Jun 2023 18:41

What i don't understand is when its says "parents 2 or 3rd cousin" because which family?
I have some cousin that is descended from my grt grandmothers family of which i know nothing except grandads mother gave 2 of her children her maiden name as their middle name but noone ever mentioned that side of the family. So unless the match specifies which parent its related to, then how am supposed to find out how I am related
:-S :-S

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 24 Jun 2023 14:28

You probably need to know where in Holland, or possibly Belgium, he comes from.

Don’t forget that there are several companies doing the dna testing, as you know yourself, you can choose any of them. In my own case, apart from the close relative who is on several, only one relative chose MH but loads of them chose Ancestry.

Also the algorhythms they all use are very different so that result from one company can seem to make more sense than snother.

Edt:I’ve just scrolled down on my Ancestry matches and found just over 6000 more on the unassigned list. I do know that some of them are definite relatives

Florence61

Florence61 Report 24 Jun 2023 13:42

There are 7 matches that are2nd or 3rd cousin and 2 of them are in my Grandads tree of which I have the full family tree so I know who they are. I emailed 1 other today as never heard of the name and its fairly unusual.

A few Irish 4th cousins popped up but to my knowledge we had no Irish in the family on either sides so may be very distantly related somehow??

The Netherlands is an interesting one with 245 matches as I have been looking for the elusive Gr Grandfather on mums side of the family for years! He has a Dutch surname.

I can't believe that no-one else in my close family has had this done. maybe noone else is interested in our family history, I know many of my cousins don't even keep in touch and they are 1st cousins!