General Chat

John Nicol, mariner, wrote a book of his exploits on the Lady Juliana

http://books.google.com/books?id=51JHAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+life+and+adventures+of+John+Nicol&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QmgZUcjSJaTI0QWoqIDIDg&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA

The link for Australian Newspaper archives.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper

there is much Uk news too

And not to forget that before sending criminals to Australia or New Zealand they sent them off to America. There are a few kindle books on the subject of all convict transportation....mostly free.

yes Liz.....I noticed there are a few threads on the subject over the years.


Have you all tried google book search?.....try adding the name of your ancestor Or anything you may be interested in.

Mr Daff......maybe the Newspapers will have something on your research. there are some free Australian old newspapers online.......but be careful.....once you enter into the realms of newspaper clippings there may be no turning back :-D

I was speaking to a woman buying books in Tesco yesterday and she mentioned one about women being sent to New Zealand, can't remember the title now but something about along the riverside or similar wording?

Anyone know what it is?

The Abandoned Women one sounds good, will look out for it.

Lizx

Anyone who has Scottish ancestors maybe interested in
Abandoned Women by Lucy Frost.
Scottish women and their children who were sent to Van
Diemen's Land on the Atwick-1837.

Emma :-)

Thanks Sue# <3

I've got the book about the Lady Juliana, and Daff believed she had found a male rellie on the first fleet.
I've done some OS research on Oz sites and found a 1792 map showing the location of a land grant he had; a poss burial record (epitaph); but little else other than what is in the book.
@Brenda - PM to follow :-D

If I remember rightly I looked at my wall chart for Daff as I think she had a first fleeter.
This is an interesting chart that I had from Oz with all the ships listings...plus the supply ship which had everything on it...including the kitchen sink....
If anyone wants me to look on it for a possible convict p.m.me.
I have a first fleeter,but can't find anything after,but don't think he died en voyage.

Since posting on this thread so far back, I have seen another about it, and posted on that, or maybe it was me started it, can't recall now but I got a copy of the book The Floating Brothel from Poundland so posted about that. It was fascinating reading.

Lizx

My 4th Great Grandfather, John Seaborn, was transported to Van Diemens Land aboard the Earl Saint Vincent, in 1826. His crime was stealing carpentry tools, but he had previous convictions for poaching. He died in Sydney, 1839.

Nudging this up for Mr Daff as it has a lot of info he will need.

I missed it - is it going to be repeated does anyone know?

I watched with what can only be described as utter astonishment, that these women, brought together by crime ( some of the things they would be let off with a caution today) became the cornerstone of Australian culture as we know it today. Their descendents must be proud of them , and remember them with dignity. The colonisation of Australia began with them. Anne :)))

nudge

Glad to be of service Mary...lol... Hope you are well and chat soon. Anne :)))

Mary... don't get upset chuck... you're not that old.. lol... Mary was used a lot in those days... Catholics nearly always put 'Mary' in front of another name for their girl offspring... like 'Mary Jane... Mary Frances...Mary Elizabeth... Most were called by their second name but others... being very iliterate in those days... called them just 'Mary'..... You would also find they called several children by the same name in families... I have one family that had 3 Johns'... two of them dying in infancy. Anne :)))

i will have to remember to watch that lol one of my rellies was transported to VDL on her arrival she was sent to port arthur penal colony. it seems a bit harsh as she only took a napkin from her employer. she sailed on the SS America from the downs(thames estuary) on 6th january 1831 and arrived in hobart on 9th may 1831. susie

There are some lovely stories connected with these convicts and those who are lucky enough to have one that went to the colonies... you must be so proud of them... I know I would... But I can't find one... sob... Anne :)))

Hi Anne my Joseph Bunton was born Essex c. 1796. arrived the colony of Hobart 1823, he had been convicted of 2 offences and was sentenced to 7 years transportation. he was a farm labourer and left UK on the ship 'albion' he had a journey of 154 days. My 2nd cousin found out this and the court record from colchester.uk.Joseph was lucky enough to be assigned to farm work. I will be forever grateful to my convict ancestor as I can claim with pride that I am 5th generation australian from good convict stock. lol. I don't know how our ancestors survived the hardships but i am in awe of them. judy

I will be watching. I have enjoyed reading this thread. Although we all know about transportation it somehow becomes more poignant when you see the names. Also very interesting to learn from descendants. I have just discovered one of my ancestors was imprisoned for smuggling. I wonder why he escaped transportation. Beryl x

Thanks for remimding me. I have written it on the calendar. My husbands GGGGrandfather sailed to Tasmania in 1803 on the 'Calcutta' convicted of sheep stealing. He had been sentenced to death but the sentence was commuted to transportation. He left a wife and 8 children here. It will be so interesting to see the sort of conditions they endured (and sad). We are lucky enough to have found out extensive information about him and are in touch with direct descendants of his, mainly through this site and even know where is is buried. Will be taping it as well. Linda