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Need help finding my birth mother please!

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Andyb68 Report 13 Nov 2012 20:09

Just wondering if anyone else is researching a squire family tree, I know my birth mum was called Thelma squire, she was one of a triplet, her brother is Norman squire and her sister is Judy squire. They were born in Monmouthshire in 1946, I would really appreciate some help in finding here please.


patchem Report 13 Nov 2012 20:45

Do all the family know about you?
They may not want their names broadcast as they are probably still alive.
Have you read the guidance at the top of these boards?
Have you located the births, as they appear to have middle names, to make following them easier?
Have you looked to see if anyone on here has any of them, or their parents in their tree?
There appears to be an older sister, also.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 13 Nov 2012 21:36

Not seeing a marriage for her. There was one on in 2002.



patchem Report 13 Nov 2012 21:59

Have you got the death certificate of your grandfather (1993, Portsmouth?) for information about the informant who could be one of the children?


brummiejan Report 13 Nov 2012 22:00

Having checked BMD's, I have a suspicion the family might have moved to Hampshire - might this ring a bell with you?


brummiejan Report 13 Nov 2012 22:00

Snap Patchem! Sort of.


patchem Report 13 Nov 2012 22:02

Grandmother 1992 Petersfield?
Indeed, snappish.


brummiejan Report 13 Nov 2012 22:03

Looks like Norman married in Hampshire too. Quite something having triplets back in the 40's, especially if they all survived.

Guess this isn't revealing too much, as it can easily be found on Freebmd:

Name: Norman D Squire
Spouse Thelma Webb
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1939
Registration district: Newport
Inferred County: Monmouthshire, Shropshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 514


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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 13 Nov 2012 22:12

There was another daughter too.



ErikaH Report 13 Nov 2012 22:43


If you were adopted, you must go through proper channels.....................add your details to the national adoption contact register

This is not a secure site........


Fiona Report 15 Nov 2012 20:49

How come all the hoo hah about "proper channels" adoption register..etc...not many people join the register..only a small percentage...and if I remember rightly Long Lost Families was sponsored by Genes and 6 of the 7 programmes were adoption how is someone supposed to find their family on a "living relatives site" without naming them?? If genes have a problem with it they ought to maybe make it a secure site...just a suggestion :-D


ErikaH Report 15 Nov 2012 22:38


You clearly didn't fully understand the processes involved in the making of 'Long Lost Families'

Nor were we told how many other people they had tried to help, where they had not had a successful outcome................


Andyb68 Report 15 Nov 2012 22:48

Hi everyone who has replied, as you can probably see I have only just recently subscribed to genes reunited and I'm not completely aware of the guidelines, having said that I thought this was what it is for, to find long lost relatives. I briefly read the guidelines and can't really see what I have done wrong. I have only put names on there, no addresses or email. I didn't actually realise people help you out of the kindness of their heart and I really appreciate all your help. I have traced quite a lot of the family tree with no real problem but can't find anything recent on any of the family.
Anyway just wanted to say thanks to everyone that has researched this for me.


Fiona Report 16 Nov 2012 10:28

its not your fault if you have made an error Andy.and I cant see what you have done havent given a full name nor like you said an email,address or phone number...and as it says they are "guidelines" not rules...I was adopted too and found my birth mum and family..successfully may I add...and Reggie yes I did understand the proccesses thankyou ;-)


patchem Report 16 Nov 2012 17:40

Thelma is Thelma H Squire. I cannot see a marriage for her - can anyone?

As Rose has put, there was a Thelma H Squire on in 2002 in Camberley.

Did you apply for the death certificates, or look at reports in the local newspapers, to see if the deaths of her parents would give any further information?


Ru Report 16 Nov 2012 17:50

Sometimes the 'proper channels' can take forever. It can be a bureaucratic nightmare and in the end frustration sets in.

I do not think Andyb68 has done anything wrong so far. These sites are not secure and so anything on here can be googled and read. I for one was grateful to be told this and immediately deleted anything I did not want made 'public'. However, finding 'living relatives' is a delicate area anyway.

There is another point too. I put a request on for ancestors and one helper came through with all the personal information I already had; they had not understood the original request and therefore, they were guilty of putting my personal details out there for all to see.

You are doing Ok Andy.

Good luck,



brummiejan Report 16 Nov 2012 18:08

If you think these are your grandparents - and given the other info we have I think they must be - I recommend you get Norman's death cert, as it is the later death. The informant is usually a relative, and the cert will give the relationship, plus the informant's address at the time.

Name: Thelma Squire
Birth Date: 19 Jan 1914
Date of Registration: Oct 1992
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: Petersfield
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 522

Name: Norman Davies Squire
Birth Date: 28 Nov 1914
Date of Registration: Jan 1993
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Register Number: D44A
District and Subdistrict: 4971D
Entry number: 119



Andyb68 Report 16 Nov 2012 18:30

Thanks to everyone that suggested ordering death certificate for my grandfather, I hadn't realised it would give me extra information! Also looking at local newspaper is an excellent idea, hadn't thought of that.
Also thanks for messages of support! It means a lot.
I think my birth mum may use her middle name as her first name, does anyone happen to know if she would be able to use this on official documents ie marriage certificate or electoral register? And also could this be the reason I can't seem to find any information about her?
Thanks again Andy


Flip Report 16 Nov 2012 20:46

Hi Andy,

I'm afraid anyone can use any name they wish, variants of their original name or a completely different name. Just so long as they are not assuming the name for frauduent purposes.

If you are in doubt as to the info provided then try tracing her siblings and their families for leads.

I also advocate going through official channels - do you have you adoption files for the background etc?

Edit, I just want to add,I don't think you have done anything wrong in searching. Your opening post was discrete and did not publicise anything personal about your relatives.

Good luck


patchem Report 16 Nov 2012 21:01

What is her middle name, please?