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Unknown

Unknown Report 25 Jun 2014 19:47

I know he may not be dead, he did not appear to have good health though !
Yes that is possible that he could have changed his name as he already had done so with his middle names.
The family still live in Edinburgh.

jax

jax Report 25 Jun 2014 19:42

He may not be dead as he is only 90

He may have changed his name completely? if he changed his middle names for no reason at all

Unknown

Unknown Report 25 Jun 2014 19:37

Born in Preston 13th march 1924 lived at 33 Annis Street Richard Mathew Dermot 's mother was Agnes Mathews born 7th may 1885 his dad was Thomas Cooper born 1884, son who drowned was Thomas Henry Cooper he died 21st june 1936 aged 23 years , his other brother Bernard was born 1st June 1915. not 1944 . Thomas Henry Cooper was known as Harry
I am just looking for the final resting place of my friend father, who used Richard Mathew Dermot Cooper also Richard Michael Derry Cooper on his Royal Navy papers. He got called Danny at home, very confusing !!

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Jun 2014 17:26

according to the 1911 census Agnes was born c1882 so this could be her death

Name: Agnes Cooper
Birth Date: abt 1883
Date of Registration: Mar 1955
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Preston
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10f
Page: 411

and Thomas

Name: Thomas Cooper
Birth Date: abt 1884
Date of Registration: Dec 1947
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Preston
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10f
Page: 248

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Jun 2014 17:22

this could be Bernard

Name: Bernard Cooper
Birth Date: 1 Jun 1915
Date of Registration: Jun 1998
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Preston and South Ribble
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register Number: D51C
District and Subdistrict: 5881D
Entry Number: 189

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Jun 2014 17:17

so re reading page one Thomas Henry Cooper born 1913 died in 1936 was his brother not his father .

seems his brother Bernard was born in 1915 not d day 1944!! .have you followed him through ?

have you found his parents deaths ??

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Jun 2014 17:05

so where did the family live after the edinburgh wedding .


is Bernard his brother born 20 years apart ?

if his mum was born in 1885 surely she would be a bit too old to be having a child in the 1940,s

D day was the 6th June 1944!!

Unknown

Unknown Report 25 Jun 2014 15:33

I am in no way related to this person, only trying to help my friend find her Dads resting place if he is dead.

Unknown

Unknown Report 25 Jun 2014 15:14

Thank you for helping, just got this from my friend, some where along the line, he changed his name as his birth name is not the same as his name on his Royal Navy document.
Been looking Scotlands people for a death cert, can not find any thing on him on either names.
Born in Preston 13th march 1924 .His mother was Agnes Mathews born 7th may 1885 his dad was Thomas cooper .Thomas Henry Cooper died 21st june 1936 aged 23 years his other brother Bernard was born on d day 6th June think he would be 90 now Thomas Henry Cooper was known as Harry. My friends Dad Richard Cooper married13th november 1945 at all saints church tollcoss Edinburgh

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Jun 2014 12:46

You didn't answer the question about where and when your friend was born

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 25 Jun 2014 12:43

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
33 Annis Steet Preston, Preston, Lancashire, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Cooper Head Married Male 27 1884 Bricklayer Preston Image Transcription
Agnes Cooper Wife Married Female 29 1882 Weaver Cotton Preston Image Transcription
Print individual transcription View image Individual transcription
First name(s) Agnes
Last name Cooper
Relationship to household head Wife
Marital condition Married
Gender Female
Age 29
Birth year 1882
Occupation Weaver Cotton
Birth place Preston
Address 33 Annis Steet Preston
Parish Preston
County Lancashire
Country England
Registration district Preston
Registration district number 476
Subdistrict East Preston
Subdistrict number 2
Enumeration district 9
Piece number 25252
Schedule number 270
Census reference RG14
Census reference RG14PN25252 RG78PN1446 RD476 SD2 ED9 SN270

They have been married for three years

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 25 Jun 2014 12:31

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1907
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
COOPER Thomas MATTHEWS Agnes Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston PRESTON/129/151

If they married in a church, it wasn't C of E

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 25 Jun 2014 12:28

These may be the parents of the Preston-born child



Marriages Sep 1907 (>99%)
COOPER Thomas Preston 8e 1481 Scan available - click to view

MATTHEWS Agnes Preston 8e 1481

there were two older sons, and I can't see another marriage in preston


Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Cooper Thomas H Matthews Preston 8e 912 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1915 (>99%)
Cooper Bernard Matthews Preston 8e 791

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 25 Jun 2014 12:21

If he was known as 'Paddy', that would seem to bear out reggie's line of thought, and the names Michael Derry are distinctly irish

Was his name on your friend's birth certificate?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Jun 2014 12:18

If he married/died in Scotland, you will have to get credits for Scotlands people website and search on there

jax

jax Report 25 Jun 2014 12:15

So his name is Richard Matthews Dermot Cooper ?

The other thread on Ancestry which could be posted by your friends husband, says he married in Scotland and was known as Paddy?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Jun 2014 12:14

Catherine

I repeat.............................................

NOT the 1924 one

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1924
COOPER Richard Matthews Dermot Preston East Preston MATTHEWS PEAST/12A/63

probably Irish....................with the combination of names you give

EDIT

UNLESS............your friend - or someone connected with her - guessed at the second and third forenames for the man

Unknown

Unknown Report 25 Jun 2014 12:11

My friend has confirmed that this is the right birth cert for her Dad. She has been looking for him for a long time now.
Trying to find a death cert, he could have died in Scotland or England.

Name: Richard M D Cooper
Mother's Maiden Surname: Matthews
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1924
Registration district: Preston
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 770

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Jun 2014 08:04

Unknown

Can you please check carefully the info you have been given...........

The names given to you by your friend are NOT the man born in Preston.

As I said before, his names sound IRISH

When and where was your friend born? Is her father named on her birth cert?

jax

jax Report 24 Jun 2014 23:39

The one born in 1924 did not have the middle names of Michael Derry as mentioned in Reggie's post at 13.49.....where was he born? where was he last known to be living please?

He may still be alive or died since 2007

The person who posted on ancestry said he married in Scotland....is that where he lived? you may need to look on scotlands people which is a pay to view site