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patrick Report 12 Aug 2014 14:00

Hi Im looking for any information on any living relatives to Edward Harry Clayton who died in Wellington New Zealand in Dec 1993 aged 81. He was married to Isabella Mann Hunter Clayton. Can any one help?
Regards Patrick Clayton


Autumnleaves Report 12 Aug 2014 15:16

If Edward Harold Clayton was born in Pontefract Yorkshire in 1905 he is in someones tree on here.

Go to search- top right hand corner on here, then click on search trees enter his name and you will find it. You can then send a message to the person.
Good Luck


Kenneth Report 12 Aug 2014 16:25

He would have been born 1912 or possibly late December 1911 if
details given by Patrick are correct.


Jacqueline Report 12 Aug 2014 16:46


Can you tell us, please, where he was born

is he in your tree on this site


Jacqueline Report 12 Aug 2014 16:51

If he was born where he died, he is in someone's tree, although it doesn't look as though you have uploaded his details


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Aug 2014 17:18

Died 1994 Reg no. 31240 Clayton Edward Harry born 31 July 1912
Died 1986 Reg 45832 Clayton Isabella Mann Hunter born 21 July 1914


Not being familiar with NZ DC, would it give the names of his children, if any?

Added - from

The print out (NZ$20.40) will tell you the number and sex of living issue. At least you'd then know if they had any children!


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Aug 2014 17:48

New Zealand Birth Index, 1840-1950 about Edward Harry Clayton
Name: Edward Harry Clayton
Birth Date: Jul-Aug-Sep 1912
Folio Number: 4109

Looking at available NZ ER on Ancestry, in the hope of finding connecting names
Name Edward Harry Clayton- Civil servant
Electoral Year: 1935
District: Wellington South
Region or Province: Wellington

At the same address – 379 Adelaide Rd, Wellington South
Alice Maud – married
Constance May – married
William Thomas – carpenter

1938, 1939 as above.

Island Bay, Wellington
Although Alice, Constance and William are still at no 379, Edward has now married Isabella Mann Hunter and living with her at 287a Adelaide Rd.

Jumping ahead to 1972, Edward and Isabella are living in the same district but at 15 Severn Court.
Ditto 1978 & 1981

So all we've been able to discover are the names of his probable parents, and some other married-in female relative! Unfortunately not all years are shown on Ancestry, with gaps where eligble children are likely to be living at home


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Aug 2014 18:04

You could try using the Ask a Librarian service to see if they can check the missing electoral rolls for you. The names of other eligibly voters listed at 15 Severn Court, Island Bay, Wellington, might be their children.

They might even be willing to look for an obiturary for either deaths to see if any other rellies are mentioned


patrick Report 14 Aug 2014 17:02

Hi Autumnleaves,Kenneth, Jacqueline, andDetEcTive

Many thanks for your'e help,I'm a new boy at this,so any help is wonderful.My Grandfather was Harry John Clayton,and one of his brothers was William Clayton who married a Alice Whitehead they had 5 children,the only one to be born in New Zealand was Edward Harry Clayton who was born31st July 1912 in Wellington New Zealand and married a Isabella Mann Hunter Russell he died in Dec 1993 in Wellington New zealand and I'm trying to find out if he had any children, but have hit a brick wall can any one help me please
Kind regards Patrick Clayton


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 14 Aug 2014 20:10

Purchase Edwards DC as the informant could to be a relative

Contact the Ask a Librarian service and see if they will check the intervening years at both 287a Adelaide Rd. and 15 Severn Court. If you're lucky another Clayton name might appear.

Also ask if they will check newspapers for obituaries.

Your brick wall is because NZ have a 100 year closure on births,
80 on marriages and 50 on deaths unless the person was born 80 years or more ago.

If you edit your first post, then add NZ to the title then someone with additional NZ research knowledge may know of other sources.


Jacqueline Report 14 Aug 2014 21:44

Have you had any luck with contacting the person who has him in a tree on this site?


patrick Report 13 Oct 2014 17:24

Hi Im Looking for help on any information on a Rose Clayton,married name Rose O'Brien. My Grand Father was Harry John Clayton who had 2 brothers and 2 sisters Sarah Ann Clayton William Thomas Clayton John Clayton who died at the age of 14 and Rose Clayton. Rose was born in1876 in Spitalfields London and married John O.Brien in 1901 John was a Railway Porter and the 1911 census shows them living at 189 Hanbury St E in the parish of Mile End New Town. What happened to them? Did they have any children? Can you help me again as i have hit a brick wall
Regards Patrick Clayton


patchem Report 13 Oct 2014 19:38

These are births from free bmd for the London area:

Births Jun 1912
O'Brien Ellen L Clayton Whitechapel 1c 409
Births Jun 1914
O'Brien Charles Clayton Bethnal G. 1c 386


patchem Report 13 Oct 2014 19:45

They have a child in 1911

1911 England Census
Rose O Brien
Age in 1911: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female
Birth Place: Spitalfields Civil Parish: Mile End New Town County/Island: London Country: England
Street address: 189 Hanbury Street, Whitechapel E
Marital Status: Married Years Married: 10 Estimated Marriage Year: 1901
Registration district: Whitechapel
Registration District Number: 18 Sub-registration district: Spitalfields
ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Piece: 1470
John O Brien 35 3 children born 1 living
Rose O Brien 35
Kezia Clayton 70 mother in law
Henry O Brien 2 son
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 1470.


patchem Report 13 Oct 2014 19:48

Possible birth for Henry:
Births Dec 1908
O'Brien Henry William Whitechapel 1c 231


Jacqueline Report 14 Oct 2014 11:45

Are you likely to be trying to contact the person I told you about back in August?

And have you tried to look for any info yourself?

here's the best place to start:-


Jacqueline Report 14 Oct 2014 11:48

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Gun Street, Spitalfields, Whitechapel, London, England

Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Clayton Head Married Male 46 1845 Carman Hedgerley, Buckinghamshire, England Transcription
Kezia Clayton Wife Married Female 50 1841 - Ash, Surrey, England Transcription
*******Sarah Ann Clayton Daughter Single Female 10 1881 General Servant Surrey, England Transcription
Rose Clayton Daughter Single Female 16 1875 - Middlesex, England

*****Image shows her age to be 20. Correction submitted to FMP


Jacqueline Report 14 Oct 2014 11:50

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1, Parliament Court, Old Artillery Ground, Whitechapel, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Kezia Clayton Head Widow Female 60 1841 Charwoman Ash, Surrey, England Transcription
Sarah A Clayton Daughter Single Female 31 1870 Domestic Servant Surrey, England

Deaths Dec 1912 (>99%)
CLAYTON Kezia 71 Whitechapel 1c 402


Jacqueline Report 14 Oct 2014 12:00

First name(s) ROSE
Last name O'BRIEN
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1875
Age 78
Death quarter 1
Death year 1953
County Middlesex
Volume 5E
Page 502

First name(s) HENRY WILLIAM
Last name O'BRIEN
Gender Male
Birth day 27
Birth month 11
Birth year 1908
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1991
Register number 791
County Essex
Volume 15
Page 494


patrick Report 17 Oct 2014 18:36

Hi Patchem and Jacqueline
I would just like to say many thanks for all you're input and help on Rose Clayton, i shall follow up and hopefully find some more cousins.Jacqueline in answer to you're question, i followed up you're input,and have found out that i have cousins in New Zealand,indeed have made contact with one.Thank You. Once again Thank you.
Kind regards Patrick Clayton