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Well her birth cert gives her mmn Wright and she travelled with Doris who appears to be her mum and travelled as Bailey . It would appear that dee was born to the couple but they weren't married until later because Doris was still married

Dee can get a copy of her birth cert now with the GRO ref I posted .

This will give her parents names

gee you are sooo good at this have found out a lot more infor I have changed the original post as Dee is not sure if she was from a relationship from her father or not maybe she was just born out of wedlock? She is out from Australia ATM and will show her the above infor Monday when she returns I;m sure she will find it most interesting thank you so much for your time
Sandra

Looks like his arrival
Name: Mr V B Bailey
Birth Date: abt 1913
Age: 24
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 6 May 1937
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Orama
Search Ship Database: Search for the Orama in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 14

Occ moulder. Address in UK. c/o Thomas Cook. London. (They are shipping agents)

Lived in New Zealand


Soooo he was in New Zealand in. 1935. and came to the UK. In 1937 so he couldn't have married in Nottingham in 1935 which nails that you have picked up the wrong Vincent marrying

Was in New Zealand too in 1935
Bailey Vincent Bernard — — 1935 New Zealand electoral rolls New Zealand

Don't have access to view the actual info

Vincent appears in an 1938 NZ electoral roll so he wasn't in the UK then.

Rose

Dee can get a copy of her birth cert from the GRO

www.gro.gov.uk. Using the gro ref I posted

Costs £9.25 including postage

You have to register on the site ,free then follow the order form . Tick the box that asks if the GRO. Ref is known and fill in the refs boxes where indicated

Try using the original reg of 1941 refs

oh thanks will have to ask Dee where she got the infor from great to have a name for Doris son though thank you for your help important not to jump to conclusions when trying to fill in the gaps lesson learn't Sandy

Yes the Vincent you picked up isn't your guy because. He was just Vincent and stayed in the Nottingham area and had two more children to 1949. And died in the Nottingham, area and born in 1908

So it looks like your Vincent didn't 't marry before It was Doris who was married when they met and they eventually married after she divorced

Possible son

Births Sep 1932
Stokes Norman R Wright Birmingham N. 6d 621

oh did that Vincent stay in England?

Why don't you think it was him that married Catherine Bates?

Well it looks like it was only Doris who had married before as there isn't any marriage for Vincent. B. Bailey in the UK

Doris' first marriage:

Marriages Dec 1930
Stokes George A Wright Birmingham N. 6d 890
Wright Doris M Stokes Birmingham N. 6d 890

Rose

No I don't think they were married until later but his family didn't know they were against a 25 anniversary celebration Yes that's them Doris was born in Birmingham and had family there. Doris also had a son to a previous Marriage? relationship but her husband kept the child. Interesting times

So he brought his second wife and Dorothea back from the UK

Doesn't look like he married before then though

Won't their marriage cert indicate if he was married before

He wasn't the one who married in 1935 though wrong guy !!

What about getting his army records. They may give some clues .But if he was living with Doris then the records may well have her as his next of kin

Don't know why the 99 year veto. Never heard of that. Births now under 50 years old you have to know all the info in order to get a copy of the cert because of data protection / identity fraud

yes he did to his second wife whose maiden name was wright they had to wait for her devoice to come through maybe his too. You still have to wonder why they would put a 99 year veto when Dorothea (Dee) asked for her original birth certificate
I thought he went to join up in the second war but Dee said he went in the 1930s and joined up in 1944 to the general service corps then in the 22/2/1945 parachute Regiment he had a red beret Sandy

First name(s) DOROTHEA ANN
Last name BAILEY
Title MISS
Gender Female
Age 6
Birth year 1941
Departure year 1947
Departure day 24
Departure month 1
Departure port LONDON
Destination port NEW ZEALAND
Destination NEW ZEALAND
Country NEW ZEALAND
Destination country NEW ZEALAND
Ship name RIMUTAKA
Ship official number 145517
Ship master's first name P B
Ship master's last name CLARKE
Shipping line THE NEW ZEALAND SHIPPING COMPANY LIMITED
City LONDON
Ship destination port NEW ZEALAND
Ship destination country NEW ZEALAND
Ship registered tonnage 10009
Number of passengers 288
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger listsu
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States
Travelled with a Mrs. Doris. May. Bailey aged 34

Home address 282 High street Smethwick

Smethwick is in the birmingham area so like the right birth for Dorothea

Can't see any marriage them though so looks like they weren't married

There isn't a marriage for him in the UK.

That info you have picked up for the 1935 marriaige isn't him as that family stayed in the UK

Vincent died in New Zealand he returned with another woman after the war and bought a child out with them Dorothea who was about 7