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Unknown Report 17 Jul 2017 05:00

My grand father Issac George Hambling, died in April 1948 and he was aged 78 so looks the dates are out! He was known as George. Amazing how the names were spelt. just a later here and there, can make all of the difference Thank you all :-)

Unknown

Unknown Report 17 Jul 2017 04:50

I am so very upset that I was not able to answer any of your posted information. True fully this is the first time I have been able to open this. It does seem correct. Thank you for the picture. I am sure that is her. Issac George was and engineer, so it seems to match. My grand father Issac George I do know had a sister Jane. She had a son John who was called Jack. She was a money lender. Lived in Clapton as did Issac and Emmeline

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Nov 2016 14:17

Have sent PM to Yvonne advising how to return to her thread.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Nov 2016 19:31

Emmiline Gardner

in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Record Image View

Name: Emmiline Gardner
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Age: 19
Spouse: John Henry Angold
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 9 Dec 1867
Parish: St Philip, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Henry Gardner
Spouse Father: John Angold
Register Type: Parish Register

He's a cabinet maker, 123 Millington Row, his father a cabinet maker.
Her address 12 Willows Walk, her father an engraver.
Witnesses John & Eleanor Angold.

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 03:27

Year of birth for Isaac and Hephzibah look to be a bit out

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Albert Road, Tottenham, Edmonton, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Samuel Hambling Head Married Male 54 1837 Machine Fitter St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Ann Hambling Wife Married Female 53 1838 - Middlesex, England
Isaac Hambling Son Single Male 19 1872 Sugar Maker Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Hephzibah Hambling Daughter Single Female 17 1874 Machine Fitter Middlesex, England

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
HAMBLING, HEPHZIBAH MURFETT Order
GRO Reference: 1871 D Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 68

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 02:28

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) SAMUEL
Last name HAMBLING
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1854
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ SAMUEL HAMBLING married one of these people
SOPHIA MURPHY, ANN MURFETT
District SHOREDITCH
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1C
Page 363

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Samuel Hambling
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Samuel Hambling
Spouse: Ann Murfett
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Nov 1854
Parish: St John, Hoxton
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Samuel Hambling
Spouse Father: John Murfett
Register Type: Parish Register

Samuel a Minor, Bachelor, Watch Maker of Seward Street, Father Samuel a toy Maker

Ann a Minor, Spinster, of York Place, Father john a Carman

Samuel and Ann signed. Married after Banns
Witnesses - John Murfett signed, Sarah Murfett her mark and William Bulland/Bullard signed

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 02:12

1911 census has Isaac George as George born Islington

1901 census has him as George born St Luke's, London

St Luke's is an area and former civil parish in the London Borough of Islington, just north of the City of London near the Barbican and Shoreditch. It takes its name from the church of St Luke's, on Old Street west of the tube station. Wikipedia

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St. Luke Registration District - UKBMD
https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/st%20luke.html
Created : 1.7.1837 (originally "St. Luke Middlesex"); Abolished : 2.8.1869 (to become part of Holborn registration district). Sub-districts : City Road, Finsbury, Old ..
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1873 (>99%)
Handling Isaac George Holborn 1b 706

Holborn RD covers St Luke's
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Which is possibly where someone got "Moffatt" from. Not the maiden name of Emeline but the maiden name of Isaac's Mother (Murfett here)

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
HANDLING, ISAAC GEORGE MURFETT Order
GRO Reference: 1873 S Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 706

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 01:46

PROBATE -

HAMBLING - Isaac George otherwise Isaac George otherwise George of 44 Lockhurst Street Clapton Park London E5 died 4 April 1949 Administration (with will) London 27 September to Emmeline Annie Hambling and Annie Elizabeth Hambling spinsters. Effects £636 13s 10d

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 01:42

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Queens Road, St Leonard Shoreditch, Shoreditch, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William H Ritter Head - Male 38 1833 - Surrey, England
Alvena Ritter Wife - Female 40 1831 - Germany
William H Ritter Son - Male 14 1857 - Middlesex, England
Alvena Selina Ritter Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Middlesex, England
Sarah Chant Visitor - Female 32 1839 - Middlesex, England

Original has birthplace of Alvena (1831) as Prussia

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 01:35

England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

Shoreditch RD covers Haggerston where Alvena is said to have been born as per census

First name(s) ALVINIA SELINA
Last name RITTER
Birth year 1862
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District SHOREDITCH
County London
Country England
Volume 1C
Page 111

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
RITTER, ALVINIA SELINA FREYHOFER Order
GRO Reference: 1862 D Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 111

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 01:32

Alvina died 1911

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) ALVINA S
Last name ANGOLD
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1863
Age 48
Death quarter 4
Death year 1911
District BETHNAL GREEN
County London
Volume 1C
Page 159

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 01:30

Did John Henry "take up" with this lady. Not seeing a marriage to fit

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Suffolk Road, Shoreditch, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John H Angold Head Married Male 44 1847 Cabinet Maker Middlesex, England
Alvena Angold Wife Married Female 28 1863 - Middlesex, England
William H Angold Son - Male 2 1889 - Middlesex, England
Isabel Angold Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Middlesex, England
Thomas Angold Son - Male 0 1891 - Middlesex, England

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
32, Emma Street, Bethnal Green, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John H Angold Head Married Male 53 1848 Cabinet Maker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Alvina Angold Wife Married Female 38 1863 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Isabella Angold Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Brushmaker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
William H Angold Son Single Male 13 1888 Paper Stainer Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Rose Angold Daughter Single Female 10 1891 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
John Angold Son Single Male 9 1892 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Jane Angold Daughter Single Female 6 1895 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
74 Temple Street Bethnal Green, Bethnal Green, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
John Henry Angold Head Married Male Cabinet Maker 63 1848 B G London Bethnal Green
Alvina Pelena Angold - Married Female - 48 1863 London Haggerston
William Angold - Single Male Trimmer 23 1888 London B G Bethnal Green
Isabel Angold - Single Female Servant 24 1887 London Haggerston
John Angold - Single Male Fitter 19 1892 London B G Bethnal Green
Jane Angold - Single Female Brush Cleaner 16 1895 London B G Bethnal Green

Married 25 years 6 children born to marriage, 5 still living

It probably reads Alvena Selena

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 00:11

??England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) JOHN H
Last name ANGOLD
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1847
Age 84
Death quarter 4
Death year 1931
District BETHNAL GREEN
County London
Volume 1C
Page 133

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 00:11

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) JOHN
Last name ANGOLD
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1850
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ JOHN ANGOLD married one of these people
HARRIET LOVELL, ELEANOR LATHAM, JANE LOW, ANN NIALL

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 00:08

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Temple Street, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Angold Head Married Male 26 1825 Joiner Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Ellenor Angold Wife Married Female 29 1822 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
John H Y Angold Son - Male 4 1847 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Sarah Chyne Visitor Widow Female 58 1793 Weaveress Hand Loom Mile End, Middlesex, England
William MacKenzie Lodger Head Married Male 19 1832 Wood Letter Cutter Bromley, Middlesex, England
Mary MacKenzie Wife Married Female 25 1826 - Tottenham, Middlesex, England

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? 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

Note his Mother's name Eleanor
13, West Street, Bethnal Green, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Angold Head Married Male 35 1826 Cabinet Maker Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Elanor Angold Wife Married Female 39 1822 Sil Weaveress Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
John Angold Son Unmarried Male 13 1848 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
George Angold Son Unmarried Male 9 1852 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Thomas Angold Son Unmarried Male 7 1854 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

(George's mother's maiden name shows as Latham on the GRO index)

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 00:06

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ANGOLD, JOHN HENRY CRICK
GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 02 Page 17

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Which would make this a possible marriage for the parents

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1846 (>99%)
Angold John Bethnal Green 2 10
Crick Jane Bethnal Green 2 10
Davis Susanna Bethnal Gn 2 10
Gabriel Ann Bethnal Green 2 10
Gilbert Josiah Bethnal Grn 2 10
Gogay Hannah Bethnal Green 2 10
Morren Amelia Bethnal Gn 2 10
Powell William John Bethnal Gn 2 10
Taylor Henry Bethnal Gn 2 10

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But unfortunately this death ?

Name: Age at Death (in years): Order:
ANGOLD, JANE 29 Order
GRO Reference: 1848 S Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 02 Page 389

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Nov 2016 00:01

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
29, Union Street, St Leonard Shoreditch, Shoreditch, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William H Gardner Head Married Male 56 1805 Tailor Hackney, Middlesex, England
Ellen Gardner Wife Married Female 33 1828 Shoe Binder Hoxton, Middlesex, England
Emiline Gardner Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1849 Book Binder Middlesex, England
Charles B Gardner Son Unmarried Male 1 1860 - Hoxton, Middlesex, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Nov 2016 23:52

If this is emeline Snr then she would appear to have been widowed between 1891 and 1901 unless her status is for appearances sake

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Underwood Street, Stepney, Whitechapel, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Emeline M Angold Head Married Female 42 1849 Fancy Box Maker Middlesex, England

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Block a Guinness Buildings, 15, St Luke, Holborn, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Emmaline Angold Head Widow Female 52 1849 Box Maker Hackney, Middlesex, England
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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
103 Guinness Trust Buildings Lever St Finsbury E C, St Luke, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Emeline Angold Head Widow Female Cardboard Box Maker 62 1849 London Bethnal Green

Mistakenly completed and crossed out - married 43 years with 3 children born 2 of whom have died

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Nov 2016 23:40

??England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

First name(s) EMMALINE
Last name GARDNER
Birth year 1848
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District BETHNAL GREEN
County London
Country England
Volume 2
Page 55

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Nov 2016 23:37

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) EMELINE E M
Last name HAMBLING
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1871
Age 47
Death quarter 1
Death year 1918
District HACKNEY
County London
Volume 1B
Page 630
Country