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Annabelle, if you and your mum have decided not to search further at the moment for Priscilla, (which it sounds like you have?) just a reminder don't delete your account entirely or this thread, so that if Priscilla then looks for you she will be able to make contact. You could also put a 'postem' message on her birth reg on freebmd.org.uk giving a specific email address if she wants to make contact, in case she looks there in the future.

From the birth certificate does it have----Adopted written on it,if so,then its possible christian names one or both have been changed on adoption and certainly the surname.So contacting someone with that birth name in the media or other isn't going to be the right lady.

Yes, Tina and Ian have the same dad (Fowler). In honesty it’s put a lot into place as to why there were issues when we found siblings. I think it’s good that Marjory isn’t here today as I think she would have a lot of explaining to do; not only to My Mum but all the others!!. My Mum and I have the mutual feeling that Marjory was let’s say very Free spirited and highly fertile (that’s for sure). This tbh is I think the end of searching as we have found the eldest and she is going to speak to mum at some point.

Given that your mum was born a year after Priscilla who was reg as both Hipkiss and Niblett ( as Marjory was still Mrs Niblett) then it's possible that your mum's father was Mr Hipkiss, but also possible it was someone else entirely. Probably not Tina's father as she is listed as Niblett and Fowler.

Update!!!. Last week Mum and I ordered her original Birth Certificate and this morning we received it wit a shock; THERE IS NO NAMED FATHER???.

Another price of the puzzle that has gone missing!.

Raymond Niblett passed years ago; No chance of knowing from his side.
William Hipkiss I am 75% sure he has passed.

As Mum said upon this revelation “Who is My Father”.

Kay has put it in a nutshell.

Annabelle, you mention that there may be more children after 1966, one way you can narrow that down is to look at births on freebmd with Crump as mothers name, and eliminate those that match with marriages in those surnames. I had a quick look between 1966 & 1976, Shrops and Staffs. No one in the same surnames as Tina. You should be able to discount some either by the corresponding marriages or location.

Apart from this lady wishing to take steps looking for birth family then she wont appear out of thin air,,,,,those doing the seeking have to take the first steps,which for the adoptees birth family its a legal step by step process.which will involve some costs to them.if they are prepared to take that route.

Priscilla may have family ie "parents" that she does not wish to cause upset to or have a situation of a personal matter where no outside interference would be welcomed at this time.but it doesn't mean she wont want to search in the near future.

Its either sit it out with hope or move towards seeking an assited move.

I know, it’s disheartening as I don’t think my mum can take anymore heartbreak. She also has MS amongst other illnesses and if it stresses her out she gets poorly. The world makes it seem so easy to locate people yet it’s hard and hurts at times. There is also a factor that maybe she doesn’t want to be found. According to a Bio half sister; she thinks there may be more children born after the last Daughter Tina! So god knows how many brothers and sisters my mum had out there that we don’t know of.

If her name was changed it's most likely to be by adoption given the circumstances, so the only place to start is the adoption contact register and paying for a professional who is able to access adoption records. As per the site info given.

Even if her first name was kept, there's no Priscilla A In Weston under 65 on erolls.

We only know of her birth name. There are no records of marriage or divorce. We’re coming to the conclusion she changed her name and if that is the case we wouldn’t know where to begin and the family we have spoken to only saw her when she was 18. One of my mums bio half brothers said she was in Weston super mare but we can’t chase her down there either.

Reading through the the thread, the OP does not know Priscilla's name, so she can't know - or find out - where she lives.

Hi Annabelle, has your mum thought about maybe writing letters? I know you mentioned addresses and knocking on every door for digging lol! But maybe rather than phone calls because from experience, that can be very stressful and you forget things you want to say, a letter could be better? Or if you know where Priscilla lives locally, maybe there is a local community page on FB or other sites and you could ask around to see if anyone knows her?

Just a thought, as when i was in the same boat, i was getting desperate! It paid off in the end!

This is the direct link to the page regarding intermediary agencies.

https://www.gov.uk/adoption-records/intermediary-agencies

I strongly recommend you use one in this case if you can, it will be a professional third party who is not emotionally involved, and won't get upset by any comments.

Edit to add. If you do let your subscription lapse, do remember to keep your email address updated to GR, then Priscilla can still contact you if she does ever look here.

Annabelle, so sorry I realised just now that I had not put the right link ( I hadn't cleared a previous copy and paste!)

https://www.gov.uk/adoption-records/the-adoption-contact-register

You do need to do this, as it looks very likely Priscilla has a different name, and hasn't as yet looked for family. So no one here can really help.

I understand that but one was very nasty and hurtful toward My Mum and could of dealt with the matter in a polite way. Hearing My Mum cry and call herself a Dirty little secret really hurt me. I know that some people find it hard to be contacted and don’t always want to know but there is a level of politeness and just blatantly being rude. I’m hoping we will find her Sister Priscilla somehow be it through TV or help from the lovely members on here.

Thank you for the link, I’m an awaiting some more information and if that doesn’t help I think TV will be the next and only option.
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Annabelle, Info re adoption contact register

https://www.gov.uk/adoption-records/the-adoption-contact-register

I know it must be difficult but it's really not a great idea to put that some of the relatives are not so nice, it might put someone off providing info that you really need if they see that. Adoption situations are never easy, for some finding birth relatives or being found, just causes too many problems to be able to cope with it.

It’s Becoming very Apparent that Priscilla, has likely changed her diets name!. I have searched the Marriage and Divorce Records and Nothing. My Only option now I guess is to contact a Morning tv show that may track her down. It’s all so complex.

We didn’t know there was access to adoption recs. thank you will have a look x

If she was also adopted then to try and find her we would need her new name

Have your mum added her self to the national adoption register

If Priscilla also goes looking then the contact details would be passed on to her

Hello. It’s Annabelle, Deborahs Daughter. We’re back. After finding a few members which was very traumatic in the end as they were rude. We still haven’t found Priscilla and if anyone has any information please message me.