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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Nov 2017 18:05

Just in case it turns out to be relevant -

Mary Cuthbert
in the Transvaal Province, South Africa, Estates Death Notice Index, 1855-1976
Name: Mary Cuthbert
Death Year: 1959
Death Country: South Africa
Title: Transvaal Estates Death Index (Master of the Supreme Court, Pretoria)
Source: National Archives, Pretoria
Reference Number: 2629/59

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Nov 2017 17:46

If Mary Dodds was your grandfather's mother, then he wasn't the David born in 1905 in Anstruther.

In which case, he doesn't appear to have been born in the UK.


Also, there is no record of a Mary Dodds marrying a David Cuthbert in the UK.

As Beryl married him in South Africa, perhaps he was born there.

ClaireCuthbert

ClaireCuthbert Report 9 Nov 2017 04:25

I got the names from my grandfathers death certificate, Mary Dodds was definitely his mother but thats all it said, and that she died in Scotland. So i don't think Elizabeth Wilkie is the right person .

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Nov 2017 11:00


WILKIE
MARGARET THOMSO
95
1932
402/ 42
Anstruther and Kilrenny

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Nov 2017 10:42


First name(s) Andrew
Last name Wilkie
Gender Male
Birth year 1838
Birth place Scoonie,Fife,Scotland
Baptism year -
Baptism date -
Baptism place -
Father's first name(s) Alexander
Father's last name Wilkie
Mother's first name(s) Margaret
Mother's last name Allan
Place Scoonie
County Fife
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from Scotland, Great Britain
Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl



WILKIE
ANDREW
73
1911
403/ 6
Anstruther Wester

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Nov 2017 10:40


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Kirk Inch, Scoonie (Fife), Fife, Scotland

Alexander Wilkie Male 40 1801 Fife, Scotland
Margaret Wilkie Female 35 1806 Fife, Scotland
Thomas Wilkie Male 7 1834 Fife, Scotland
Andrew Wilkie Male 2 1839 Fife, Scotland
Ann Wilkie Female 9 1832 Fife, Scotland

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Nov 2017 10:29

Claire, are you now wanting to work backwards from your grandparents?

To summarise

David Alexander Cuthbert b. 1905 son of David Alexander Cuthbert ( 1865 - 1921) and Elizabeth Wilkie (1863 - 1935). They married 1889.

David Alexander Cuthbert b. 1865 son of James Cuthbert and Mary Gibb (1832 - 1921)

Elizabeth Wilkie b. 1863 daughter of Andrew Wilkie and Margaret Thomson. (Both of whom are on census until at least 1901)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 7 Nov 2017 22:01



1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Anstruther Wester, Fife, Scotland

Andrew Wilkie Head Married Male 32 1839 Mason Leven, Fife, Scotland
Margaret Thomson Wilkie Wife Married Female 28 1843 - Fife, Scotland
Elizabeth W Wilkie Daughter - Female 7 1864 Scholar Fife, Scotland
Margaret P Wilkie Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Fife, Scotland
Thomas T Wilkie Son - Male 2 1869 - Fife, Scotland
Andrew Allan Wilkie Son - Male 0 1871 - Fife, Scotland

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 7 Nov 2017 21:51


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Anstruther Wester, Fife, Scotland

Andrew Wilkie Head Married Male 32 1839 Mason Leven, Fife, Scotland
Margaret Thomson Wilkie Wife Married Female 28 1843 - Fife, Scotland
Elizabeth W Wilkie Daughter - Female 7 1864 Scholar Fife, Scotland
Margaret P Wilkie Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Fife, Scotland
Thomas T Wilkie Son - Male 2 1869 - Fife, Scotland
Andrew Allan Wilkie Son - Male 0 1871 - Fife, Scotland



From FindMyPast ( look at the mother's name, same as David and Elizabeth named a daughter)


First name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Wilkie
Gender Female
Birth year 1863
Birth place Anstruther Wester,Fife,Scotland
Baptism year -
Baptism date -
Baptism place -
Father's first name(s) Andrew
Father's last name Wilkie
Mother's first name(s) Margaret
Mother's last name Thomson
Place Anstruther Wester
County Fife
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from Scotland, Great Britain
Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 7 Nov 2017 21:42

I think that this may be your grandmother's death. The only way to be sure would be to buy credits and look at the registration.
(Notice that on the reference, the entry number is 1. That means it was the first death registered in that district in 1935, so she may have died on 30 or 31 December 1934)


CUTHBERT
ELIZABETH
71
1935
335/ 1
Blairgowrie



WILKIE
ELIZABETH
71
1935
335/ 1
Blairgowrie

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 7 Nov 2017 21:22

From FindMyPast showing his parents names


First name(s) David Alexander
Last name Cuthbert
Gender Male
Birth year 1865
Birth place Anstruther Easter,Fife,Scotland
Baptism year -
Baptism date -
Baptism place -
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Cuthbert
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name Gibb
Place Anstruther Easter
County Fife
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from Scotland, Great Britain
Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 7 Nov 2017 21:19

Your grandfather's death

CUTHBERT
DAVID ALEXANDER
56
1921
402/ 6
Anstruther Easter


His birth

DAVID ALEXANDER
M
1865
402/ 33
Anstruther Easter

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 7 Nov 2017 21:15

I posted your grandparents marriage on 25 October.

David Alexander Cuthbert married Elizabeth Wilkie in 1889 and they can be found together on the 1891, 1901 and 1911 census records.


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Nov 2017 18:22

If David born 1905 in Anstruther is your grandfather, his mother seems to have been Elizabeth Wilkie.

Where did you find the name Mary Dodds, please?

ClaireCuthbert

ClaireCuthbert Report 7 Nov 2017 13:38

I managed to get some details of my Grandfather's parents names. His father was also David Alexander Cuthbert and his wife was Mary Dodds. I have looked on Ancestry.com and Scotlandspeople sites but I am unable to find any details of either of them or their marriage. Not sure if anyone else could find anything? They both died in Scotland so I am assuming they both were born there

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 26 Oct 2017 22:47

I wouldn't necessarily rule that McPherson out ArgyllGran.

Alexander Gibson McPherson was one of a large family. Although he only appears to have had one son ( haven't found a death for him) and one daughter who died in 2010 in Blairgowrie. The owner of that farm may have one of his brothers who then passed it on to a son who then retired and sold it in 2003.


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Glendoick Hamlet, Errol, Perthshire, Scotland

John McPherson Head Married Male 55 1846 Blacksmith Sub Post Master Errol, Perthshire, Scotland
Jessie McPherson Wife Married Female 46 1855 Assistant Postmistress Kilconquhar, Fife, Scotland
Alexander McPherson Son Single Male 17 1884 Apprentice Blacksmith Errol, Perthshire, Scotland
James McPherson Son Single Male 16 1885 Telegraph Messenger Errol, Perthshire, Scotland
John McPherson Son - Male 14 1887 Scholar Errol, Perthshire, Scotland
Charles McPherson Son - Male 12 1889 Scholar Errol, Perthshire, Scotland
George McPherson Son - Male 10 1891 Scholar Errol, Perthshire, Scotland
William McPherson Son - Male 8 1893 Scholar Errol, Perthshire, Scotland
Gibson McPherson Son - Male 8 1893 Scholar Errol, Perthshire, Scotland
Margaret McPherson Daughter - Female 5 1896 Scholar Errol, Perthshire, Scotland
Jessie McPherson Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Errol, Perthshire, Scotland


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Oct 2017 14:55

Re the travel record posted by Kay, for D A Cuthbert going to Cape Town -

the address is written as Millhall, Aberlot, Arbroath .
Aberlot should be Arbirlot, and Millhall should probably be Millhill.

Currently, the occupier of the farm called Millhill at Arbirlot is a McPherson.

Perhaps related to Margaret McPherson (nee Cuthbert) ???

https://www.misterwhat.co.uk/scotland/angus/46_arbroath/farmers
https://arbirlot.cylex-uk.co.uk/company/angus-mcpherson-17123457.html



EDIT:
No, forget that.
Millhill Farm changed hands in 2003, per Rightmove.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 26 Oct 2017 11:03

Marriage of your father's aunt?


Surname Forename Spouse Surname Spouse Forename Year Ref RD Name Image View
CUTHBERT
MARGARET THOMSO
MCPHERSON
ALEXANDER GIBSO
1916
402/ 3
Anstruther Easter


His aunt, Jamesina appears not to have married and died in Edinburgh in 1968.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 25 Oct 2017 21:01

D A
Last name Cuthbert
Title MR
Gender Male
Age 30
Birth year 1906
Occupation ENGINEER
Departure year 1936
Departure day 18
Departure month 1
Departure port Southampton
Destination port Cape
Destination CAPE
Country South Africa
Destination country South Africa
Ship name Kenilworth Castle
Ship official number 118433
Ship master's first name E S
Ship master's last name VINCENT
Shipping line UNION-CASTLE MAIL S.S.CO.LTD
City SOUTHAMPTON
Ship destination port SOUTH AFRICA
Ship destination country SOUTH AFRICA
Ship registered tonnage 12975
Number of passengers 338
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Great Britain, England, Great Britain


List gives --last known address.

Millhall Ahan.??? Arbroth and Angus.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Oct 2017 19:46

Parents' marriage.


Surname Forename Spouse Surname Spouse Forename Year Ref RD Name Image View

CUTHBERT
DAVID ALEXANDER
WILKIE
ELIZABETH
1889
403/ 1
Anstruther Wester