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Carol

Carol Report 24 Feb 2018 07:57

can anyone find information on the parents of Elizabeth Burmingham born 1822 Petworth sussex England please. She married a James Tolhurst on 16 sept 1848 Gravesend Kent England.I know all this information but don't know her parents.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Feb 2018 08:48

Well the marriage cert should name her father ,if known

Have you found her on the 1841 census

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Feb 2018 08:52

Looks like her surname was Birmingham

VIEW 1851 England Census

Name: James Birmingham
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Petworth, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Dartford
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Bexley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 64
Piece: 1607
Folio: 376
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
James Polhurst 36
Elizabeth Polhurst 27
Sarah Polhurst 7 Mo
James Birmingham 20
Ann Jones 36

Carol

Carol Report 24 Feb 2018 08:54

Thank you vey much.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Feb 2018 08:56

Wonder whether there was an older sister who maybe died


Name: Elizabeth Birmingham
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 18 Oct 1809
Baptism Date: 22 Oct 1809
Baptism Place: Petworth,Sussex,England
Father: John Birmingham
Mother: Maria
FHL Film Number: 0918253, 0918254

Carol

Carol Report 24 Feb 2018 09:08

Thankyou such a big gap in the year could it be the same one.On 1861 census 1881 census and 1871 the year of birth differs 1822,1825 and 1824.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Feb 2018 09:15

Probably couldn't read or write so it's written as sounded

Marriages Sep 1848
Burmingham Elizabeth Gravesend 5 277
Tolhurst James Gravesend 5 277

Carol

Carol Report 24 Feb 2018 09:17

Thank you so much I will have to send for marriage certificate that might help.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Feb 2018 09:27

It may be she had a sister who died and she was named the same

Not seeing any baptism for her or James so you need the marriage certs

Carol

Carol Report 24 Feb 2018 09:29

Thank you so much for your help.x

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 24 Feb 2018 10:05



County Kent
Place Milton next Gravesend
Church name Holy Trinity
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 70
Marriage date 16 Sep 1848
Groom forename James
Groom surname TOLHURST
Groom age full age
Groom condition bachelor
Groom abode Milton
Groom occupation Labourer
Bride forename Elizabeth<<<
Bride surname BURMINGHAM <<<<
Bride age full age
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Milton
Groom father forename Thomas
Groom father surname TOLHURST
Groom father occupation Labourer
Bride father forename Henry <<<<
Bride father surname BURMINGHAM <<<
Bride father occupation Shoemaker <<<
Witness William PARISS
Witness Mary PARISS

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_queries/new

So she names her father as HENRY not James.

Flip

Flip Report 24 Feb 2018 10:22

Possibly this one:

Elizabeth Burningham
Event Type Christening
Event Date 21 Feb 1825
Event Place Petworth, Sussex, England
Gender Female
Father's Name Henry Burningham
Mother's Name Mary Burningham

Flip

Flip Report 24 Feb 2018 10:24


Elizabeth Burningham
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place Petworth, Sussex, England
Residence Note North Street
Gender Female
Age 15-19
Age (Original) 15
Birth Year (Estimated) 1822-1826
Birthplace Sussex
Registration District Petworth
Parish Petworth
County Sussex
Page Number 21
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 1094/35
Affiliate Record Type Household

Henry Burningham M 50-54 Sussex
Mary Burningham F 50-54 Sussex
Henry Burningham M 25-29 Sussex
Mary Burningham F 20-24 Sussex
William Burningham M 15-19 Sussex
Elizabeth Burningham F 15-19 Sussex
Jane Burningham F 10 Sussex
James Burningham M 8 Sussex

Maybe someone could check the image see if Henry's occupation is recorded?

Flip

Flip Report 24 Feb 2018 10:34

A possibility?

Henry Birmingham
Spouse's Name Mary Gosden
Event Date 04 Oct 1811
Event Place Midhurst, Sussex, England

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Feb 2018 10:37

Henry's occupation in the 1841 census matches the marriage..............shoemaker.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Feb 2018 10:41

This could POSSIBLY be Elizabeth's parents marriage:-

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription

First name(s) Henry<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Last name Birmingham<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Name note -
Marriage year 1811
Marriage date 04 Oct 1811
Marriage place Midhurst
Spouse's first name(s) Mary<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse's last name Gosden<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Residence Midhurst, Sussex, England
County Sussex
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages

Kath. x

Flip

Flip Report 24 Feb 2018 10:44

Mary is a widow on 1851 census, grandaughter Caroline is with her.

>>> Added: not sure about this as her age is quite a bit out. I'll leave just to eliminate it - there was another Mary Burmingham in Petworth on the 1841 census which I think is the one posted below.

Name Mary Burningham
Event Type Census
Event Date 1851
Event Place Petworth, Sussex, England
Registration District Petworth
Gender Female
Age 76
Marital Status Widow
Occupation Independent Aunt
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1775
Birthplace Wisborough Green, Sussex
Page Number 19
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 1649 / 248
Affiliate Record Type Household

Mary Burningham Head F 76 Wisborough Green, Sussex
Caroline Burningham Grand Daughter F 13 Fittleworth, Sussex

There's a possible death for Henry:

Henry Burmingham
Event Type Burial
Event Date 24 Mar 1843
Event Place Petworth, Sussex, England
Age 55
Birth Year (Estimated) 1788

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Feb 2018 10:47

POSSIBLE baptism for Mary:-

England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription
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First name(s) Mary
Last name Gosden
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1792
Baptism date 01 Jan 1792
Place Rogate
County Sussex
Country England
Father's first name(s) Richard<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Father's last name Gosden
Mother's first name(s) Ann<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

Kath. x

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Feb 2018 10:48

Elizabeth Burningham in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Elizabeth Burningham
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 21 Feb 1825
Baptism Place: Petworth,Sussex,England
Father: Henry Burningham
Mother: Mary

And the brother who appears on the 1851 census...

James Burningham in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: James Burningham
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 25 Mar 1830
Baptism Place: Petworth,Sussex,England
Father: Henry Burningham
Mother: Mary

His marriage.....

Marriages Mar 1853 (>99%)
Birmingham James Dartford 2a 307
BURNINGHAM James Dartford 2a 307
STOKES Sarah Ann Dartford 2a 307


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5, High Street, Erith, Dartford, Kent, England

James Burmingham Head Married Male 33 1828 Dealer In Marine Stores Surrey, England
Ann S Burmingham Wife Married Female 30 1831 - Erith, Kent, England
James R Burmingham Son - Male 10 1851 - Walwick, Kent,
Harriet Burmingham Daughter - Female 4 1857 Scholar Dartford, Kent, England
Priscilla S Burmingham Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Dartford, Kent, England


Harriott Ann Burmingham in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Harriott Ann Burmingham......MMN Stokes
Registration Year: 1856
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Dartford
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 224


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Erith, Dartford, Kent, England

James Birmingham Head - Male 41 1830 Marine Store Dealer Sussex, England
Ann Birmingham Wife - Female 40 1831 - Kent, England
Harriett Birmingham Daughter - Female 14 1857 - Kent, England
Clara Birmingham Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Kent, England


Births Dec 1861 (>99%)
BURMINGHAM Clara Amelia Dartford 2a 257


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
6, Colebrook Street, Erith, Dartford, Kent, England

James Birmingham Head Married Male 51 1830 Petworth, Sussex, England Genl Dealer
Ann S Birmingham Wife Married Female 49 1832 Erith, Kent, England Genl Dealer


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Poor House, Rudgwick, Petworth, Sussex, England

James Burningham in the 1841 England Census
Name: James Burningham
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Gender: Male
Where born: Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Petworth
Hundred: Rotherbridge
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Petworth
Sub-registration district: Petworth

Henry Burningham 50 Shoemaker
Mary Burningham 50
Henry Burningham 25 Fellmonger
Mary Burningham 20
William Burningham 15 Fellmonger
Elizabeth Burningham 15
Jane Burningham 10
James Burningham 8


William Burningham in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: William Burningham
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 10 Feb 1821
Baptism Place: Petworth,Sussex,England
Father: Henry Burningham
Mother: Mary


Marriages Sep 1847 (>99%)
BURNINGHAM William Petworth 7 605
Stevens Frances Petworth 7 605


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
North Street, Petworth, Sussex, England

William Burningham Head Married Male 28 1823 Felmonger & Tanner Petworth, Sussex, England
Fanny Burningham Wife Married Female 27 1824 - Petworth, Sussex, England
William Burningham Son - Male 3 1848 - Petworth, Sussex, England


BURNINGHAM, WILLIAM MMN STEVENS
GRO Reference: 1848 M Quarter in PETWORTH UNION Volume 07 Page 465


William Burningham in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: William Burningham
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 9 Jan 1848
Baptism Place: Petworth,Sussex,England
Death Date: 7 Jun 1852
Father: William Burningham
Mother: Frances


Henry Burningham in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Henry Burningham
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Dec 1811
Baptism Date: 12 Feb 1812
Baptism Place: Petworth,Sussex,England
Father: Henry Burningham
Mother: Mary


Marriages Sep 1846 (>99%)
Burningham Henry Steyning 7 649
Woolven Mary Steyning 7 649


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Petworth Union Workhouse, Petworth, Sussex, England

First name(s) Henry
Last name Birmingham
Relationship Pauper
Marital status Married
Sex Male
Age 39
Birth year 1812
Occupation Shoe Maker
Birth place England
Birth town Petworth
Birth town as transcribed Petworth
Birth county Sussex
Birth county as transcribed Sussex
House name Petworth Union Workhouse
Street -
Town Petworth
Parish Petworth
City -
County Sussex
Hamlet -
Parliamentary borough -
Municipal ward -
Registration district Petworth
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1649
Folio 261
Page 5
Record set 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain, England

Henry Birmingham Pauper 39 Shoemaker married....Petworth, Sussex
Mary Birmingham Pauper 32 married....Billingshurst, Sussex
Mary Ann Birmingham Pauper Daughter....Petworth, Sussex

BURNINGHAM, MARY ANN MMN WOOLVEN
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in PETWORTH UNION Volume 07 Page 512


Mary Ann Burningham in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Mary Ann Burningham
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 9 Mar 1851
Baptism Place: Petworth,Sussex,England
Father: Henry Burningham
Mother: Mary

??
Deaths Jun 1852 (>99%)
Burningham Mary Ann Petworth 2b 156

And a son.......

BURNINGHAM, EDWARD MMN WOOLVEN
GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in PETWORTH Volume 02B Page 266


Edward Burningham in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Edward Burningham
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 4 Jun 1856
Baptism Place: Petworth,Sussex,England
****Death Date: 9 Feb 1858***
Father: Henry Burningham
Mother: Mary


Henry Birmingham in the 1861 England Census
Name: Henry Birmingham
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Petworth, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Petworth
Town: Petworth
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Petworth
Sub-registration district: Petworth

Henry Birmingham 50 (Image too faded to be able to read the full details)

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Feb 2018 10:50

POSSIBLE marriage for Mary's parents:-

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription

First name(s) Richard<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Last name Gosden<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Name note -
Marriage year 1791
Marriage date 11 Apr 1791
Marriage place Treyford with Didling
Spouse's first name(s) Anne<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse's last name Bridger<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
County Sussex
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973

Kath. x