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Clifford Abraham Newton

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Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 30 Oct 2018 00:01

Yes found three different trees,

Trevor

Trevor Report 29 Oct 2018 18:53

Thank you very much Elizabeth. Are you referring to the Ancestry.com website?

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 29 Oct 2018 17:05

You may already know but ,Three people with Clifford in there tree on Ancestry

Trevor

Trevor Report 29 Oct 2018 13:21

My goodness I am overwhelmed by the very thoughtful responses from Shirley and Erika. I thank you both so much for your kindness. My father was born out of wedlock. A little more meat here comes from a paternity suit that my grandmother Winifred May Burborough filed against a man she claimed had "assaulted" her. The term in those days was much more delicate. Whether that claim is true will never be known I am sure. There are 8 pages of court transcripts regarding the paternity suit, I believe somewhere in an Exeter record office. I would love to have a copy of that 'back and forth' for details. Regardless she lost the paternity suit. I have followed the purported Newton family connection forward and came so close to assistance from a 'purported' cousin (grandchild also of Clifford Abraham Newton). I had requested photographs of her grandfather to see if a physical resemblance might have been carried on with my father but then I feel that I was 'too close to the fire' and all correspondence stopped after I sent her photos of my self and my father. Other purported relatives who were also grand children of Clifford Abraham Newton did not respond to my inquiries. I did not even reach the level of DNA comparisons. So, I am trying to find any public photo since private photos probably will never be made available to me. I was aware of the will but am highly doubtful any mention was made concerning my father now deceased. The court case was indeed very bitter and major denial of the "assault" or even a casual/consensual relationship. Really quite intriguing but it does lock out 25% of my ancestry. Again I thank you both for going far beyond whatever I may have expected.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Oct 2018 13:21

http://www.branscombeproject.org.uk/mar.htm


mm2853 21.09.1921 Clifford Abraham Newton 26 unmarried carpenter Beer Robert Fox Newton carpenter
mm2854 Gladys May Newton 26 unmarried Thomas Newton farm labourer

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Oct 2018 12:50

Clifford Abraham Newton
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Gunner
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Royal Garrison Artillery
Regimental Number: 213641
Previous Units: Base Details. RGA. 213641 Gnr.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Oct 2018 12:47

Death from LancsBMD

1973
NEWTON Clifford Abraham 78 Milnrow Rochdale MIL/7A/100

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Oct 2018 12:43

The Probate record gives his address as Lion Villas, Beer, Seaton, Devon


https://www.beer-devon.co.uk/business-directory/beer-parish-news/


https://media.info/newspapers/titles/rochdale-observer

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Oct 2018 12:15

Logically, one of Trevor's parents was reputed to be the man's illegitimate child


That being the case, I doubt that approaching any legitimate descendants would prove fruitful

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2018 08:58

Yes I was wondering why he was a purported grandfather

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Oct 2018 08:53

Trevor

Try the local newspaper

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Oct 2018 08:52

Line 2 of the OP states he is his purported grandfather

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2018 04:18

1911 census

Record Transcription:
1911 Census For England & Wales
60 Main Street Beer, Beer, Devon, England

Robert Fox Newton's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Fox. Newton Head Married Male 49 1862 Carpenter And Wheelwright Devon Beer
Emma Newton Wife Married Female 48 1863 - Devon Beer
Mabel Minnie Newton Daughter Single Female 28 1883 Dress Maker Devon Beer
William Robert Newton Son Single Male 21 1890 General Smith Devon Beer
Mary Ellen Newton Daughter Single Female 19 1892 - Devon Beer
Clifford Abraham Newton Son Single Male 16 1895 Carpenter Wheelwright Assistant Devon Beer
Gladys Mutter Newton Daughter - Female 11 1900 School Devon Beer
Dorothy May Newton Daughter - Female 9 1902 School Devon Beer
Leslie Isaac Newton Son - Male 6 1905 School Devon Beer
Gwendoline Emma Newton Daughter - Female 4 1907 School Devon Beer
Kathleen Hilda Newton Daughter - Female 0 1911 - Devon Beer

Married 29 years 11 children born 10 still living


Record Transcription:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Towns End, Beer, Axminster,Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Newton Head Married Male 39 1862 Wheelwright & Smith Beer, Devon, England
Emma Newton Wife Married Female 38 1863 - Beer, Devon, England
Mabel M Newton Daughter Single Female 18 1883 Dressmaker Beer, Devon, England
William R Newton Son Single Male 11 1890 - Beer, Devon, England
Clifford A Newton Son Single Male 6 1895 - Beer, Devon, England
Gladys M Newton Daughter Single Female 1 1900 - Beer, Devon, England



ROBERT FOX
Last name NEWTON
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1882
Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™
ROBERT FOX NEWTON married one of these people
Emma Mutter
District Axminster
District number -
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B
Volume as transcribed 5B
Page number 3
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2018 04:10

School registers

Clifford
Last name Newton
Birth year 1895
Birth date 05 Jan 1895
Event year 1898
School name Beer Church of England School
Town Beer
County Devon
Country England
Parent name(s) Robert Newton
Book type Admissions
Archive reference 2269C/EFA/3
Folio / page no. -
Archive Devon Heritage Services, Exeter
Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
Category Education & work
Subcategory Schools & Education
Collections from Great Britain, England



Clifford
Last name Newton
Birth year 1895
Birth date 05 Jan 1895
Event year 1902
School name Beer Church of England School
Town Beer
County Devon
Country England
Parent name(s) Robert Newton
Book type Admissions
Archive reference 2269C/EFA1
Folio / page no. -
Archive Devon Heritage Services, Exeter
Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
Category Education & work
Subcategory Schools & Education
Collections from Great Britain, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2018 03:22

How is he connected to you ??

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2018 02:12

Coukd be the death ,one day out on birthday

GRAHAM
Last name NEWTON
Gender Male
Birth day 19
Birth month 11
Birth year 1926
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1996
District Gateshead
District number 0511B
Register number B58F
Entry number 154
Date of registration mm/yy 0696
County Durham
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2018 01:59

FMP had two more children


Newton Household (8 People)
2 Lion Villa Ellesmere , Axminster R.D., Devon, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Robert Newton 23 Feb 1922 Carpenter
Clifford (A) Newton 05 Jan 1895 Builders
Gladys (May) Newton 15 May 1895 Housewife
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Graham Newton 20 Nov 1926 At School

So the closed record is another child

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2018 01:50

ROBERT LESLIE
Last name NEWTON
Gender Male
Birth day 23
Birth month 2
Birth year 1922
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1990
District Honiton
Register number 1290
County Devon
Volume 21
Page 1332
Country England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2018 01:45


Name: Clifford A Newton
Registration Date: Jul-Aug-Sep 1921
Registration district: Honiton
Inferred County: Devon
Spouse: Gladys M Newton
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 29


View England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Order death certificate for Gladys May Newton
Add Alternative Information
Report issue
Name: Gladys May Newton
Death Age: 76
Birth Date: 1 May 1895
Registration Date: Jun 1971
Registration district: Honiton
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a
Page: 1290


Possibly had more than one child

Births Jun 1922 (>99%)
Newton Robert L Newton Axminster 5b 5
Births Mar 1924 (>99%)
Newton Christine M Newton Axminster 5b 15
Births Dec 1926 (>99%)
Newton Graham C Newton Axminster 5b 9
Births Sep 1929 (>99%)
Newton Valerie E Newton Exeter 5b 99



Edit there is another newton/ newton marraige in 1919 that could be the parents of the other children

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2018 01:40

He appears to have had only one son who died in 1990

1939 register

Clifford Newton
[A Newton]
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 5 Jan 1895
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 2 Lion Villa
Residence Place: Axminster, Devon, England
Occupation: Builder
Schedule Number: 239
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: WHAX
Registration district: 269-3
Inferred Spouse: Gladys Newton
Inferred Children: Robert Newton
Graham Newton
Household Members:
Name
Clifford Newton
Gladys Newton
Robert Newton

His death

Clifford Abraham Newton
Death Age: 78
Birth Date: 5 Jan 1895
Registration Date: Jun 1973
Registration district: Littleborough
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10d
Page: 161

So didn't die in Devon

He left a will though
Clifford Abraham Newton
Death Date: 30 May 1973
Death Place: Beer Seaton Devon
Probate Date: 29 Aug 1973
Registry: Bristol

You can order a copy to download through

https://www.gov.uk/wills-probate-inheritance/searching-for-probate-records