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Caris

Caris Report 21 Oct 2019 22:06

hi, is anyone able to help look up info to find my half sister michelle kristina poynter .
i believe her mum was sheila griffiths and my father george poynter born 1938 south shields.
also im searching for my half brother Kevin poynter but he changed his name to Kevin Billington born in 1965 croydon who my dad george had with another lady called judith laing. i see a marraige kevin billington with a louise o calzetti but im trying to locate them and cant find there wherabouts at all. is anyone able to help please

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Oct 2019 22:24

Have you found Michelle’s birth cert

Edit so born 1972


She married in 2005

Will pm a possible address

Caris

Caris Report 21 Oct 2019 22:33

Hi no I dont have birth certificate for Michelle I was only told on this site by someone that she married a kevin scott in 2005 . How can I find more info to contact her. Her mum was sheila Griffiths i think?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Oct 2019 22:36

The birth record does say mmn Griffiths

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Oct 2019 22:37

Kevin is Kevin G

How do you know of the name change

Not seeing the marriage to a Louise calzetti

Edit she was maiden name kite who married a Richard calzetti

No further marriage shows though

She is on the electoral rolls in 2002/4 in Horley

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Oct 2019 22:40

George pointer did marry Judith Laing

Have you got their marriage cert

Caris

Caris Report 21 Oct 2019 22:56

I see on the bmd marriage with kevin m billington to louise calzetti in 2001 kent?
Found kevin name change on news on google as his related to sally anne bowman.
Is it possible to find where these ppl are now so I can contact x

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Oct 2019 23:16

He was registered tho as Kevin G poynter not Kevin M

Caris

Caris Report 21 Oct 2019 23:46

I noticed that he was kevin g poynter . But I see kevin m billington marries to louise o calzetti which is the lady he is with.
I found kevin on fb but dont think he uses it as messages not going thru and only had one friend which is the son of louise calzetti who he dont know much info either as lost contact. So frustrating

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 22 Oct 2019 03:06

I think Kevin M is a different Kevin from the Chatham area. Not seeing any marriages for your Kevin. There's one on the electoral roll in Carshalton.

Rose

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Oct 2019 12:09

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1353895

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Oct 2019 15:57

Kevin M Billington in Kent is a different person

He isn’t the Kevin you are looking for

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2019 16:53

And the Kevin Billington whom you mention as being related to Sally Anne Bowman is almost certainly another completely different Kevin - not your brother Kevin G Poynter.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sally-annes-uncle-let-off-366088

EDIT:
Well, no, I'm wrong - see next post.


It's confusing because we're talking about two different Kevins in any case - Kevin C Scott who married Michelle K Poynter (you've been given their address) , and Kevin G Poynter who is your half brother.

Why do you think he changed his name to Billington?

Why do you think he married a Louise?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2019 17:14

Actually, looking closer at Sally Anne Bowman, I see her mother's name was Poynter.

Sally Anne Bowman
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007
Name: Sally Anne Bowman
Registration Date: Sep 1987
Registration district: Sutton
Inferred County: Greater London
Mother's Maiden Name: Poynter
Volume Number: 15
Page Number: 721

However, I don't see a Bowman/Poynter marriage to enable more investigation.



Sally Anne Bowman
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Sally Anne Bowman
Death Age: 19
Birth Date: 11 Sep 1987
Registration Date: Apr 2006
Registration district: Croydon
Inferred County: Greater London
Register Number: B97B
District and Subdistrict: 225/1B
Entry Number: 077

Parents' names mentioned here:

https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/sally-anne-bowman

Her mother born 1962, mms Laing ??

Looks like you're right about Kevin's change of name - apologies for doubting that!

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Oct 2019 17:46

No marriage that I can see to Calzetti, where are you seeing that please?

She is on the eroll 2002/2003/4/ but living alone apparently.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Oct 2019 17:48

There was a Kevin Billington living in Croydon until at least 2011, per Electoral Roll.

No Louise with him, though.

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Oct 2019 17:53

Relevant to this is a message I have from Caris back in 2015 where she has attached a family tree given to her

my reply was:

"Ok so looking at that file that you have I assume that it was sent by a relative? There is a problem with it

it has George's birth ok

then it says
"George married Sheila GRIFFITHS [57646] [MRIN: 17002].
The child from this marriage was:
i. Michelle Kristina POYNTER [57647]

George next married Judith LAING [57648] [MRIN: 17003]...."

Well there is a marriage for George to Judith Laing but it is in 1961...so if he married Sheila Griffiths BEFORE Judith, then Michelle can't be the birth in 1972? "

My further reply re the file was

"From: Rose x
8 Aug 2015
I notice that the document is from 'legacy' which is connected to the Mormon's genealogy site in the states...whilst it is very good for searches ( familysearch is the site which is useful for parish records) there is a lot of info which has been 'submitted' by the public and isn't backed up by any records. It's a bit like trees on the Ancestry site, many of them are wrong but they are copied and people believe them.

I think you will have to work through it and try and check everything as you go, maybe buy the marriage cert to Judith Laing, and check age and whether George says he has been married before etc."

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Oct 2019 19:33

Just for ref the older sisters mentioned in the article on Sally Anne are from a former marriage for Linda M Poynter.

Caris

Caris Report 22 Oct 2019 20:01

Yes linda had 4 girls . And brother kevin and sister maureen who is now ann ball.

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Oct 2019 20:15

Caris, there are marriages listed on that file which don't appear to have taken place , eg the one to Sheila Griffiths isn't showing anywhere so it is possible that they just lived together. If she then did marry someone else both hers and Michelle's surname would have changed? Unless you know otherwise?