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Alice died in 1988

Just to emphasise Eustace M in case Catherine hasn't realised the possible significance of the middle initial -

Michael may have been his middle name, by which he preferred to be known rather than Eustace. (Or possible adoptive parents maybe kept the middle name only.)

I would, if I was him!

It is not possible to register births without a surname.................

Births Jun 1919 (>99%)
Vinson Alice M Creeper Tavistock 5b 468

Marriages Dec 1912 (>99%)
Creeper Annie Vinson Tavistock 5b 857
Vinson Sydney Creeper Tavistock 5b 857

Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Vinson Dorothy A Cr[eo][eo]p[eo]r Tavistock 5b 577
Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
Vinson Adelaide M Creeper Tavistock 5b 654
Births Dec 1924 (>99%)
Vinson Phyllis M Creeper Tavistock 5b 478

Name: Sidney Edward Vinson
Gender: Male
Rank: Gnr.
Record Type: Card
Death Date: 6 Nov 1918********************************************
Service Number: 865602
Corps, Regiment or Unit: C/122 Bde. R. F. A.
Title: Pension Record Cards
Description: Other Ranks Died Vidolich C-Virgint FT
Next of Kin:
Name Relation to Soldier
Sidney Edward Vinson
Annie Vavistock Widow D o B 22 Jun 1884
Dorothy Annie Vinson Child
Adelaide Mary Vinson Children
Alice Maud Vinson Children


So who fathered Phyllis?

GUNNER
SIDNEY EDWARD VINSON
Service Number: 865602
Regiment & Unit/Ship
Royal Field Artillery
"C" Bty. 122nd Bde.
Date of Death: Died 06 November 1918

Buried or commemorated at
CROSS ROADS CEMETERY, FONTAINE-AU-BOIS

III. C. 16.

France
Country of Service
United Kingdom

Husband of A. Vinson, of 10, Taylor Square, Tavistock, Devon.
Personal Inscription
THY WILL BE DONE

Marriages Dec 1931 (>99%)
Cleave Frederick J Vinson Tavistock 5b 924
Vinson Adelaide M Cleave Tavistock 5b 924

1939
No 4 Church Park Cottages Mill Hill, Tavistock, Tavistock R.D., Devon, England
Frederic J (Frederick John) Cleave ? May 1909 Male Builders Labour Heavy W Married 38 1
Adelaide M Cleave 12 Sep 1913 Female Unpaid Dd Married 38 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.


First name(s) ADELAIDE MARY
Last name CLEAVE
Gender Female
Birth day 12
Birth month 9
Birth year 1914
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1998
District Sedgemoor

One of the 'closed' records in 1939

First name(s) GLADYS M
Last name CLEAVE
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1951
GLADYS M CLEAVE married
Frederick H Stephens
District Tavistock

......and the other

First name(s) BETTY A
Last name CLEAVE
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1958
BETTY A CLEAVE married
Ronald G Hicks
District Tavistock

One further Cleave/Vinson child - see the birth registration on freebmd

Not answering your original query, I know, but perhaps filling in some gaps for your father

1939

2 Chapel Hill,Whitchurch, Tavistock, Tavistock U.D., Devon, England
John Howell 05 Sep 1895 Male Gardener Married 134 1
Dorothy A Horrell 02 Feb 1912 Female Unpaid Domestic Dut Married 134 2
Sydney C Horrell 22 Aug 1938 Male Under School Age Single 134 3

First name(s) DOROTHY ANNIE
Last name HORRELL
Gender Female
Birth day 2
Birth month 2
Birth year 1913
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 2004
District St. Austell

1912 as Dorothy's birth year on 1939 register is an error

Births Dec 1938 (>99%)
Horrell Sidney C J Vinson Tavistock 5b 408

Plus a daughter - record on freebmd. And her marriage

Oh really thank you id never used or heard of that site and it takes some time to navigate and get used to -freeBMD

Thank you -I know I don’t know who the father is for Phyllis?

I didn’t realise the Eustace M (don’t hear many of those) significance thank you I’ll try and find that on freebmd...so he’s the older brother born 1940 no father?? which leaves the youngest brother still to find Thank you!!
I found my Dads eldest brothers family Toney Vinson (he sadly passed away 10 years ago) on Facebook from basic details but a wedding photo! Then one other brother was mentioned then another all only a month ago!! Started me doing the family tree..you can tell I was shielding lol ??

Catherine -

we don't know if Eustace is one of the brothers or not - it just seems a fairly strong possibility.
You'd have to buy a copy of the birth cert to be sure one way or the other.

You can't assume that Eustace is Alice's child - you need a copy of the birth cert for proof

There are a lot of Vinson/Vinson births on freebmd

1939

Name: Phyllis May Vinson
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 23 Nov 1924
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 58,
Residence Place: Tavistock, Devon, England
Line Number: 14
Schedule Number: 329
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: WGBB
Borough: Tavistock
Registration district: 279-1.
Household Members:
Name
Annie Vinson Birth Date: 22 Jun 1882
Phyllis May Vinson

CREEPER, HANNAH (mmn) GLIDDON
GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in TAVISTOCK Volume 05B Page 376

Same goes for Phyllis - you need the birth cert for all the relevant details, although in this instance her father's probably not listed.

Have you followed the advice about searching in member trees?

A member named Michael has Alice's father in his tree

Isn’t there any way I can search for all Alice Mauds children in a search? I have her marriage certificates and her DOB and death date on my heritage as my dad joined when he did his DNA

I have searched a few family trees that have the same trees and made contact with three people...one was a distant family member in the USA I haven’t heard back from the other two. But I believe this to be in My heritage

Only as you've already been advised - on freebmd - then buy the certs to verify mother's details

If - as you say - they were adopted, that's the end of the line

You'll just have to wait to see whether your father's adding himself to the adoption contact register bears fruit

DNA is of value whatsoever unless there is a sample with which to make comparisons