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Looking for Bartholomew M Dorrian

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Katty1

Katty1 Report 31 Dec 2020 15:01

Hi

Looking for Bartholomew M Dorrian born in 1947, Greenock.

His father was Bartholomew Monaghan. Unsure of Mother’s first name.

Both him and his mother went from Greenock to Canada in the early 50’s.

Thanks

Katrina

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Dec 2020 15:20

Looking for in what way

His birth or where he might be now ?


His birth will be on Scotland’s People

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Dec 2020 15:22

Not in anyone's GR tree, so no-one is in contact with him

Try the Canadian phone book

https://www.canada411.ca/Canada

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Dec 2020 15:31

Canada has strict privacy laws do it’s unlikely any later records would be online

No travel records show online for him

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Dec 2020 15:32

The father? Birth and death

MONAGHAN
BARTHOLOMEW
M
1921
564/1 131
Greenock East

MONAGHAN
BARTHOLOMEW
59
LEE
1980
640/ 456
Greenock

Katty1

Katty1 Report 31 Dec 2020 17:18

Hi

His birth year was 1947.

His family only found out about him lately. An older member of the family remembers him and that Bartholomew Monaghan ( his father) seen his son and mother off when they were going on the ship from Greenock to Canada.

I have looked up the ship journey at that time and looks like they would have went to Liverpool then onto Canada.

The elder member of the family can only remember the mother’s surname was Dorrian and they lived near the gibshill area of Greenock.

Due to Covid scotlandspeople sites are closed, so can’t go in to search to see what was recorded on the birth certificate

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Dec 2020 18:17

No online travel info on ancestry

Where did you find it ?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Dec 2020 18:41

The travel info has not been found

Katty1

Katty1 Report 31 Dec 2020 19:03

The elder member of the family said she remembers Bartholomew snr going to see them off on their journey to Canada

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Dec 2020 23:27

You said,
"I have looked up the ship journey at that time and looks like they would have went to Liverpool then onto Canada."

Where did you find that, please? We can't find it.

Or perhaps you just mean that ships did go from Liverpool to Canada?

Some Dorrians did go to Canada from Liverpool in the 1950's - including a Catherine Dorrian from Greenock, born in 1930 - but no Bartholomew, at least as far as the online records go.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Jan 2021 09:36

I think the poster is generalising about travel from UK to Canada at that time

Katty1

Katty1 Report 1 Jan 2021 16:03

Hi

I was just generalising about the journey through what was found online for people going to Canada from Greenock at that time.

The information I got from family members. Due to Covid Scotland’s people sites are closed, so can’t go in and look at his birth certificate for his mums name. Was just trying to see if there were other records out there that he might be listed on

Thanks for your replies

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Jan 2021 18:55

Did you try the Canadian phone book as suggested yesterday?

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 2 Jan 2021 09:34

Did Catherine Dorrian travel alone?
Could Bartholomew have travelled under a different name?

I know a family from south of England, who travelled to Canada in 1950s.
Trying to recall just when this was, I looked at travel records. The family was there, with address correct, but the son was shown with a completely different forename to that known by us and used always by his family.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Jan 2021 10:08

Catherine Dorrian appears to have travelled alone, per the image.

Catherine Dorrian
in the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Catherine Dorrian
Gender: Female
Departure Date: 1 Jul 1955
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Montreal, Canada
Ship Name: Empress Of France
Shipping Line: Candian Pacific Steamships Ltd
Master: S W Keay


Of course, we don't know Bartholomew's mother's first name.

I've searched with Bartholomew and no surname, Bart* and no surname, Dorrian and no first name, Dor*an and no first name, Monaghan and no first name - no joy.