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John Stobie or John Higgs born July 1944

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Jun 2021 17:53

Thanks, ErikaH.
Not having a sub to FMP, it didn't occur to me to look there, though I looked everywhere else.


Higgs
Margaret Cessford
YOB 1926
YOD 2020
England & Wales Deaths 2007-2020
Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jun 2021 17:51

Died 2020

It’s on FMP

Not on the gro as yet as too soon

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Jun 2021 17:45

The death is on FMP

On 17th Jan 2020 aged 94. DoB not transcribed

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Jun 2021 16:17

Out of curiosity - where did you find Margaret's death, Shirley?


Just for the record, the 1939 register posted previously is from FMP, and gives her DOB as 25 Sept 1923 - which is wrong.

That transcription has a lot of mistakes in it.
Ancestry's - below - is correct, although still has George's record closed..

Margaret C Stobie
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Margaret C Stobie [Margaret C Higgs]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 30 Oct 1925 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Residence Year: 1939
Address: Amara
Residence Place: Swadlincote District, Derbyshire, England
Occupation: At School (Secondary)
Line Number: 32
Schedule Number: 96
Sub Schedule Number: 6
Enumeration District: RBXT
Borough: Swadlincote District
Registration district: 434A/2.
Inferred Father:
Robert S R Stobie
Inferred Mother:
Elizabeth G Stobie
Household Members Age
Robert S R Stobie 51 - Feb 5 1888
Elizabeth G Stobie 49 - Dec 11 1890
Wilhelmina L Cessford 75 - June 5 1864
This record is officially closed.
Williamina M Stobie 16 - Sept 25 1923
Margaret C Stobie 14


Looking at the image -
FMP's transcription is one line out of step throughout.
.
Because of that, Robert S R Stobie has been missed out, and Joseph Percival has been included, although he lives next door.

The FMP transcriber has applied each DOB to the person on the line below the DOB.

Going by that, George D Stobie on FMP must be the closed record on Ancestry, which is often slightly out-of-date compared with FMP.



Margaret was born in Lanarkshire in 1925, per SP.
She was on Derbyshire ER. for 2005, and the house has not been sold since then, per Zoopla.
A son is at the same address until 2016 ER - probably opted out of public ER after that.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jun 2021 14:14

Several gro refs sent for various family members plus death found fir the mum Margaret in 2020

Linda has ordered some certs :-D

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Jun 2021 10:18

PM from Linda today, confirming that he has been known to use Stobie as a middle name, and has sometimes used the hyphenated surname Stobie-Higgs.

Unfortunately, even with that information, he still doesn't turn up on UK Electoral Rolls.

Nor does he appear in any GR member's tree in "Search all member trees" (under "Search" at top right of this page).
He's not in anyone's tree on Ancestry, either.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Jun 2021 16:55

Two possibile sons born Southend post 1970

Details on freebmd

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Jun 2021 16:46

Don’t know if this helps

1939 register
"amara" Woodland Road, Burton Upon Trent, Swadlincote District U.D., Derbyshire, England

s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Elizabeth G Stobie 05 Feb 1888 Female Clerk Hm Civil Service Married 96 1
Wilhelmina L Cessford 11 Dec 1890 Female Wife Home Domestic Duties Married 96 2
George D Stobie 05 Jun 1864 Male Private Means Oap Widowed 96 3
The record for this person is officially closed.
For individual people, records remain closed for a century after their birth (the 100-year rule), unless it can be proven that they passed away before this milestone. Use the ‘Open This Record’ button if you believe that this person is now deceased
Margaret C Higgs (Stobie) 25 Sep 1923 Female At School (Secondary) Single 96 5
Joseph Percival 30 Oct 1925 Male At School (Secondary) Single 96 6

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jun 2021 16:45

Unless you have proof of his death, you must remove his DoB as you are putting him at risk of identity theft

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Jun 2021 16:43

Is this the marriage to your mother? :-

First name(s) John S
Last name Higgs
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1965
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

John S Higgs married one of these people

Marlene A Peppard

Spouse's last name Peppard
District Southwell
District number -
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 3C
Volume as transcribed 3C
Page number 1047
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

This looks like his second marriage:-

First name(s) John S
Last name Higgs
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1970
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

John S Higgs married one of these people

Brenda Clarke

Spouse's last name Clarke
District Southend on Sea
District number -
County Essex
Country England
Volume 4A
Volume as transcribed 4A
Page number 1970
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

I can't see him on the recent electoral rolls on Findmypast.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jun 2021 16:38

Welcome to the boards, Linda.

The second marriage appears to have been in 1970 (per FreeBMD), when he has the middle initial S - possibly for Stobie ?? [ EDIT: He also has that initial at his first marriage.]

Unfortunately there are lots of records for men named John S Higgs, and as he clearly moved around the country quite a bit, there's no telling which records might be relevant.

He doesn't appear to have died in England, Scotland or Wales, assuming the middle name is Stobie, and assuming he continued using it.

Do you know what the middle name is?

His second wife may possibly have remarried in 1978.

There are births of a couple of possible children of his second marriage, in the 1970s in Southend on Sea. You can find the names on FreeBMD by searching with the surnames of both parents.

Linda

Linda Report 6 Jun 2021 15:13

I am looking for my father, he was born in Ashby-de-la-Zouch to Margaret Cessford Stobie from Burton-on-Trent. I believe he was adopted in 1949 by his stepfather Joseph Higgs.
He married my mother in Nottinghamshire in 1965 and remarried again a few years later in Southend-on-Sea. I am led to understand that marriage did not last long either and the family have had no contact with him since.
Any information would be a great help
Thanks all :-)