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Harry Ellis born 1929

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Jul 2022 12:07

Not that I noticed :-S

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 1 Jul 2022 11:44

Would that include the Lorraine I mentioned, twice. ;-)

Linda is obviously trying to contact some of the tree holders and asked for advise on how to check activity on another board.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Jul 2022 11:12

Members other than 'Harry' have some of the names in GR trees.

Check the facility and send contact messages

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 1 Jul 2022 08:51

I assume that is you querying how to make a contact on another board.

Hopefully Lorraine will pickup the message. If you try the Ancestry route and don’t get a reply there should be enough information to help you make a ‘dirty tree’ and then you could make other attempts at finding them.

Hope it works out for you.

Harry

Harry Report 30 Jun 2022 22:22

Thank you everyone, not sure how this all works, I am Linda Ellis Harry’s daughter in law, he passed away in 1983,
I am aware his mum was maud Mary ellis and Charles ellis his father, he had 12 siblings.
I just wondered about present family outwith Harry’s sons, just wondered if there were living relatives cousins, uncles, aunts.
Thanks for all the info so far, I looked in 2014 but never got any further

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 30 Jun 2022 20:38

The Hall tree on Ancestry that I mentioned before is by a descendant of George and they have the same 1939 entry as AG has above.

This is why I suggested that Harry takes out some sort of sub to Ancestry in the hope he can make contact.

Added: the ‘owner’ of the Hall tree is Lorraine and she has George in a tree on Genes. So several routes for Harry to try.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Jun 2022 20:14

Possibly George in 1939.

He's with a lot of other boys born around the same time, and it seems to be a Boys' Home:

George Ellis
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: George Ellis
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 3 Feb 1924
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 14 Grove Park
Residence Place: Camberwell, London, England
Occupation: Learner Metal Engineering
Line Number: 9
Schedule Number: 57
Sub Schedule Number: 13
Enumeration District: Aejl
Borough: Camberwell
Registration district: 25-2
Household Members Age
Thomas Gamble 18
This record is officially closed.
Albert E Franklin 15
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
Frederick Dawes 15
Douglas V Ellis 17
George Ellis 15
This record is officially closed.

[ and many others. 36 people listed at that address. ]


Not necessarily him. There was another George Ellis born in 1st qr 1924, in West Ham.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 30 Jun 2022 18:46

So Harry has Charles & Maud in his tree. Because of his age I assumed this Harry was looking for the families of Harry ‘s siblings.


AG - what an interesting photo. As George was in the photo I wonder where his twin, Mary, was as she wasn’t named.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Jun 2022 18:17

More people looking for info re Harry:

"April 2014
Ellis siblings 1933- 1945 Linda and Steve ask about Harry, George, Mary and Lilian Ellis. Harry was Steve's father. "

https://www.bansteadhistory.com/beechholme_feature_pre%201950.html

and re George:
https://www.bansteadhistory.com/beechholme_feature_pre%201950.html#LINELL

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jun 2022 16:49

Harry has Maud Mary Read and Charles John Ellis in his GR tree, so I don't know whether we've wasted our time looking for historical info

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jun 2022 14:18

1939 Register
88 Dunkery Road, Bromley, Chislehurst and Sidcup U.D., Kent, England

Joseph Bryan 23 Jan 1904 Male Telephone Fitter Post Office Married 91 1
Maud L Bryan 26 Jun 1908 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 91 2
The record for this person is officially closed.

Barbara (M) Coulstock (Bryan) 28 May 1930 Female At School Single 91 4

Lilian M Bennett (Ellis) 13 Dec 1919 Female Shop Assistant Single 91 5


Marriages Dec 1946 (>99%)
Bennett Ernest J Ellis Bromley 5b 376
Ellis Lillian M Bennett Bromley 5b 376


Deaths Dec 1977 (>99%)
BENNETT LILIAN MAY 13DE1919 GREENWICH 12 1252


Deaths Mar 1982 (>99%)
BRYAN MAUD LOUISE 26JE1908 BROMLEY 11 1417


Marriages Sep 1949 (>99%)
Bryan Barbara M Coulstock Lewisham 5d 270
Coulstock Edwin C Bryan Lewisham 5d 270


Coulstock
Barbara Maud
1930
2003
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Bromley, Kent, England


Coulstock
Edwin Charles
1926
2004
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Lewisham, London, England

Probably 3 children - find their births on freebmd. Too recent to post on here
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jun 2022 14:11

Marriage
25/12/1906, Southwark

Maud Mary Read, Age 21
Father: John Samuel Read
Charles John Ellis, Age 24
Father: William John Ellis




Name: John Samuel Read
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 25
Birth Date: 1860
Marriage Date: 17 Oct 1885
Marriage Place: Newington, Surrey, England
Father: Henry Read
Spouse: Emma Anthony
Father: Joseph Anthony
FHL Film Number: 475304
Reference ID: p 196

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 30 Jun 2022 11:15

It might be worth Harry taking out a free trial or short subto Ancestry as both the McDonough & Hall trees are his family.

Harry if you do take a trial or sub you must remember to cancel it in time, otherwise it rolls over. The two tree owners haven’t been active for a bit but it may be worth giving it a go.

Good luck.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Jun 2022 11:15

ELLIS, ALICE EILEEN mmn READ
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 293


Alice Ilene Ellis
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1920
Name: Alice Ilene Ellis
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 25 Jan 1911
Baptism Date: 12 Feb 1911
Baptism Place: Christ Church, Southwark, Southwark, England
Father: Charles John Ellis
Mother: Maud Mary Ellis


Alice E Ellis
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Alice E Ellis
Registration Date: Jul 1929[Aug 1929] [Sep 1929]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Southwark
Inferred County: London
Spouse: George Taylor
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 242


Alice E Taylor
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Alice E Taylor
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 23 Jan 1911
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 15
Residence Place: Dagenham, Essex, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 37
Schedule Number: 350
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: Ccky
Borough: Dagenham
Registration district: 191/1
Inferred Spouse:
George F Taylor
Inferred Children:
Kenneth G Taylor
Household Members Age
George F Taylor 38
Alice E Taylor 28
Kenneth G Taylor 9
This record is officially closed.


Alice Eileen Taylor
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Alice Eileen Taylor
Death Age: 75
Birth Date: 23 Jan 1911
Registration Date: Mar 1986
Registration District: Havering
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 13
Page: 330



Births Dec 1930 (>99%)
Taylor Kenneth G Ellis Lambeth 1d 257


Kenneth G Taylor
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Kenneth G Taylor
Registration Date: Jul 1951[Aug 1951] [Sep 1951]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Ilford
Inferred County: Essex
Spouse: Joyce xxxxxxx [ edited as maybe still living ]
Volume Number: 5a
Page Number: 1047


Kenneth George Taylor
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Kenneth George Taylor
Death Age: 69
Birth Date: 13 Nov 1930
Registration Date: Jan 2000
Registration District: Havering
Inferred County: Greater London
Register Number: HA83
District and Subdistrict: 2341A
Entry Number: 195

A possible son of Kenneth and Joyce born 1952 - but can't be sure without the cert.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 30 Jun 2022 11:15

It might be worth Harry taking out a free trial or short subto Ancestry as both the McDonough & Hall trees are his family.

Harry if you do take a trial or sub you must remember to cancel it in time, otherwise it rolls over. The two tree owners haven’t been active for a bit but it may be worth giving it a go.

Good luck.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jun 2022 09:59

1911 Census For England & Wales
10 U Block Peabody Buildings Duke Street S E, Lambeth, London & Surrey, England

Charles John Ellis Head Married Male 29 1882 Dress material packer Lambeth London
Maud Mary Ellis Wife Married Female 23 1888 - Newington London
Maud Louisa Ellis Daughter - Female 2 1909 - Lambeth London
Ada Dorothy Ellis Daughter - Female 1 1910 - Lambeth London
Alice Eileen Ellis Daughter - Female 0 1911 - -

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jun 2022 09:57

1921

Maud Mary
Ellis
1886
Newington, London, England
Newington
Southwark
London, Surrey

Ellen
Harman
1874
Hampshire, England
Newington
Southwark
London, Surrey

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jun 2022 09:50

Assuming the Ancestry tree is accurate............................

Deaths Jun 1962 (>99%)
ELLIS Maud M 75 Islington 5c 906

Deaths Dec 1947 (>99%)
Ellis Charles J 68 Surrey Mid.E. 5g 257

Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%)
Ellis Charles John Southwark 1d 80
READ Maud Mary Southwark 1d 80

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 30 Jun 2022 09:49

There are about 6 trees on Ancestry with the family in them. (using Robert G Ellis 1919) none of them name Harry they all end with the twins.. Plenty more children starting in 1908

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jun 2022 09:44

ELLIS, LILIAN MAY READ
GRO Reference: 1920 M Quarter in SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 142


Marriage
Jul 1947 • Surrey Mid Eastern, Surrey, United Kingdom
Harold A White

Death of father Charles John Ellis(1882–1947)
Oct 1947 • Surrey Mid eastern, Surrey, England
1960
40
Death of brother Robert George Ellis(1919–1960)
Abt 1960?
1962
42
Death of mother Maud Mary Read(1887–1962)
Jun 1962 • Islington, Greater London, England
1967
47

Death
Oct 1967 • Camberwell, Greater London, England

From a 'Read' tree on Ancestry