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ErikaH Report 16 Apr 2024 10:32

I requested this info before Lisa deleted the Wager thread on which a lot of effort had been expended.....seems a shame to waste it, although I'm not sure whether it will be appreciated

Army service record of James Robertson.

The record has been located at Defence Archives Centre. The Archives can provide access to these records under the Archives Act 1983.

Action required:

Step 1 ?€“ Go to our online catalogue, RecordSearch, via our website Home page | and select Login. There is an option to register. You will need to provide a researcher card number when you notify us of your selected option from Step 2.

Step 2 ?€“ Please choose option A or B below and notify us as soon as possible. The access examination process will begin only after payment for a copy OR notification of intention to visit the research centre has been received.

Option A: Purchase a copy

Copies of post-1947 Army records are supplied via email using a secure file transfer.
Copying can take up to 30 days and is done after the access examination process.
To purchase a copy, please complete and return the attached remittance advice with payment to the address on the form or call (03) 9348 5703 to make payment by phone and provide your researcher card number.

Option B: View records in our research centre

There is no charge to view original records in our Victoria Office research centre or take photographs using your own device.
The research centre is located at 99 Shiel Street, North Melbourne - open 10am to 4.30pm Wednesday to Friday, except public holidays. We do not transfer records to other state or territory offices.
If you wish to view the record in our Victoria Office research centre please respond to this email and provide your researcher card number.

About the access examination process

Access to records through the Archives is granted under the provisions of the Archives Act 1983 and all records must be examined prior to public release. Portions of the record that contain sensitive personal information, or information in the Closed Period will not be publicly accessible. Please see the following page for more information on access to records:

Access to records under the Archives Act

The Archives has up to 90 business days to notify you of an access decision.

The Archives?€™ access policy on military service records for ex-members aged 75 years or younger AND still living is to restrict the quantity of material made publicly accessible. In most cases this means that only enlistment and attestation forms, photographs and discharge papers will be released. For more information, please refer to the Archives' Access Examination Policy - Personal, Business and Professional Affairs of a Person.

Please don?€™t hesitate to contact us if you any have questions about this process.


Alison Lettin
National Reference Service
National Archives of Australia


Detail Report 20 Mar 2024 09:27

agreed this does make more sense, i am really grateful with this outcome on information. thank you.


ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2024 13:57

First name(s) Richard James
State Queensland
Last name Draney
Country Australia
Registration year 1926
Record set Queensland Marriages 1829-1939
Registration number 1926/B039929
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Marriage date 09 Jun 1926
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Spouse's first name(s) Madge
Collections from Australasia, Australia
Spouse's last name McMahon

First name(s) Richard James
Mother's last name Thompson
Last name Draney
State Queensland
Registration year 1895
Country Australia
Registration number 1896/003270
Record set Queensland Births 1829-1919
Birth date 29 Nov 1895
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's first name(s) John Davis
Subcategory Civil Births
Mother's first name(s) Charlotte

Record set Queensland Deaths 1829-1964
Mother's first name(s) Charlotte
Death date 19 Jun 1956
Mother's last name Thompson
First name(s) Richard James
Father's first name(s) Jchn David
Last name Draney
Registration number 1956/B014114
Registration year 1956
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
State Queensland
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Country Australia


ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2024 13:44

Name Ina Mary Draney
Gender Female
Electoral Date 1958
Electoral Place Toowong, Ryan, Queensland, Australia
20 Belgrave Road

With Bernard Draney,
Margaret Draney, home duties.......mother

Must have married after 1958, and hubby moved in.


ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2024 13:35

Name Ina Mary Robertson
Gender Female
Electoral Date 1980
Electoral Place Indooroopilly, Ryan, Queensland, Australia
20 Belgrave Road


ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2024 11:31

Name Ina Mary Robertson
Gender Female
Residence Date 1969
Street Address 20 Belgrave Rd., Indooroopilly
Residence Place Indooroopilly, Ryan, Queensland, Australia
Occupation Home Duties
Electoral Register Number 4156

Name James Robertson
Gender Male
Residence Date 1969
Street Address 20 Belgrave Rd., Indooroopilly
Residence Place Indooroopilly, Ryan, Queensland, Australia
Occupation Plantation Operator
Electoral Register Number 4157


ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2024 11:25

Poster has now come up with this from a tree on Ancestry

Ina Mary Draney
BIRTH 18 SEP 1932 • Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
DEATH 22 DEC 2006 • Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

So..............INA....not IDA

This makes more sense......... the USA records were completely irrelevant


Detail Report 19 Mar 2024 11:23

what a brilliant find ! thank you so much


ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2024 11:01

Name Ida Hopkins
Respondent Yes
Age 39
Estimated Birth Year abt 1901
Gender Female
Race White
Birthplace Texas
Marital Status Married
Relation to Head of House Wife
Home in 1940 Ontario, Malheur, Oregon
Ontario, Malheur, Oregon
Street SW 8th Street
Inferred Residence in 1935 Ontario, Malheur, Oregon
Residence in 1935 Ontario
Resident on farm in 1935 No
Sheet Number 1A
Occupation Nurse
Industry Hospital
Attended School or College No
Highest Grade Completed Elementary school, 8th grade
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census 40
Class of Worker Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939 10
Income 200
Income Other Sources No
Neighbors View others on page
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Charles Hopkins
Ida Hopkins 39 Wife
Wynema Hopkins
Charles Hopkins
Ruby G Hopkins

Name Ida Mae
Gender Female
Marriage Date 6 Nov 1916
Divorce Date 22 Sep 1949
Divorce Place Umatilla, Oregon, USA
Spouse Charles L Hopkins
Docket Number 4152
Grounds......................his desertion

Name Charles L M Hopkins
Gender Male
Age 24
Birth Date abt 1892
Marriage Date 6 Nov 1916
Marriage Place Jefferson, Oklahoma, USA
Spouse Ida May Gilley


ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2024 10:50


Name James E Robertson
Age 50
Birth Date abt 1900
Gender Male
Race White
Birth Place Wisconsin
Marital Status Married
Relation to Head of House Head
Residence Date 1950
Home in 1950 Umatilla, Oregon, USA
House Number B2
Apartment Number 80
Dwelling Number 485
Farm No
Acres No
Inferred Previous Residence Place Preeenet, Umatilla, Oregon
Occupation Heavy Truck Driver
Industry U S Army Engineers
Father Birth Place USA
Mother Birth Place USA
Occupation Category Working
Hours Worked 40
Worker Class Government
Same House Yes
School Completed S12
Grade Completed No
School Attendance 30 or over
Weeks Worked 50
Income 2773
Other Income None
Supplemental Income None
Relative Income None
Relative Other Income None
World War II Veteran Yes
World War I Veteran No
Veteran No
Institution Name Bachelors Gts, -, Anna
Institution Type Men's Barracks, -, James
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
James E Robertson 50 Head


ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2024 10:37

PM from poster suggesting the following 1959 divorce record is the right man

Name James E Robertson
Gender Male
Marriage Date 9 Apr 1950
Divorce Date 17 Apr 1959
Divorce Place Multnomah, Oregon, USA
Ida M Robertson
Docket Number 1835

I post without comment............................

Name James Elmer Robertson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Truck Driver
Sex Male
Age 50 years
Birth Year (Estimated) 1900
Spouse's Name Ida Mae Hopkins
Spouse's Sex Female
Spouse's Age 49 years
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1901
Event Type Application for Marriage Licence
Event Date 5 April 1950
Event Place Walla Walla, Walla Walla, Washington, United States

He was a divorced man, born in Wisconsin.
She was also divorced, born in Texas


Detail Report 14 Mar 2024 09:50

Thank you i will go on and order the death certificate and see what this can tell us and find out. thanks ErikaH


ErikaH Report 13 Mar 2024 11:34

You wrote

" as they travelled from Scotland to Australia."

The - possible - record I posted on 6th March at 10.14 shows James travelling ALONE

There is certainly NO marriage on Scotland's People

It is probably also significant that NO mention of a wife is attached to his gravestone....ONLY his parents names are recorded - as you will have seen

If you want a definitive answer, I think that the death cert is your best bet


ErikaH Report 12 Mar 2024 11:36

Apply for copy death cert here...................


ErikaH Report 9 Mar 2024 13:57

The son and daughter-in-law (hers is the tree on Ancestry) of Stuart Robert G Robertson are on the ER to 2005. The address is not recorded as having been sold since that date.


Detail Report 8 Mar 2024 16:34

Thank you ErikaH
Really do appreciate this and all of you thanks


ErikaH Report 8 Mar 2024 11:13

Death certs may provide answers


Detail Report 8 Mar 2024 10:35

Ida Mary ? Married James Robertson
I have this information from one of the family but we all seem to have a problem with locating them with dates ect !! as they travelled from Scotland to Australia.
Some of the family just are sure ? And some don’t know nothing at all.


Detail Report 8 Mar 2024 10:28

Thank you so much for all this lovely information,
I’ll work through and come back to you all and I appreciate the links to obtain records

I thank you


ErikaH Report 7 Mar 2024 13:10

James's mother's death

Deaths Sep 1983 (>99%)

She and other family members are in a tree on Ancestry........from which

Death of son stuart robert gordon robertson(1940–2004)
26/12/2004 • gloucester

GRO confirmation

GRO Reference: DOR Q4/2004 in GLOUCESTER (4831A) Reg A73 Entry Number 35

Marriage from SP

685 / 3 / 392

One son's birth on freebmd

That son's wife is the owner of the tree on Ancestry