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Iam looking for my grandfathers regiment from the first world war he fought in Aris in the trenches,was living in Bootle merseyside before he joined up and i think he worked on the docks. CAN ANYONE HELP.Also he survived the war as he was born in 1885 and died 1960

regards
Alan P

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First name(s) Henry R
Last name Pritchard
Year 1914-20
Service number 29595
Rank Private
Regiment Liverpool Regiment
Service record Soldier Number: 29595, Rank: Private, Corps: Liverpool Regiment
Image link http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D4729644
Country Great Britain
Medal type British Army medal index cards, 1914-1920
Archive reference WO372/16
Archive reference description Women's Services, Distinguished Conduct Medals and Military Medals
Record set Britain, Campaign, Gallantry & Long Service Medals & Awards
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Medal rolls and honours
Collections from Great Britain

I would guess you mean Arras - I don't know of any Aris.

thank you so much for that info and yes i did mean Arras

Birth:

First name(s) HENRY RICHARD
Last name PRITCHARD
Birth year 1885
Birth quarter 1
District WEST DERBY
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8B Page 302
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Baptism:
First name(s) Henry Richard
Last name Pritchard
Gender Male
Birth year 1885
When born: 16th Jan
Baptism year 1885
Baptism date 19 May 1885
Place Liverpool
County Lancashire
Abode: Everton
Father's first name(s) William (Occ: Copper Smith)
Father's last name Pritchard
Mother's first name(s) Rosina
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Birth registered first quarter on 1885 so possibly fitting below in 1939

Pritchard Household 27 Beattie Street , Bootle C.B., Lancashire, England

Henry R Pritchard 16 Dec 1884 Male Fitters Labourer Ship Repairs - Engine Room - Heavy Worker Married
Margaret V M Pritchard 24 May 1904 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Henry R Pritchard 12 Sep 1909 Male Wood Machinist Hand Crane Worker For Hammer Handles - Heavy Worker Married
Sidney Pritchard 17 Sep 1913 Male Fitter And Turner Ships Telegraph Makers Single
Edna M Newman (Pritchard) 28 Feb 1915 Female Football Pool Clerk Single
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Are you sure of the 1960 death? There's this death 1965:-

First name(s) HENRY R
Last name PRITCHARD
Gender Male
Birth year 1885
Age 80
Death quarter 1
Death year 1965
District BOOTLE (LANCASHIRE)
County Lancashire
Volume 10B Page 807

Your right he died 1965 also the above information regarding henry and mary Victoria May Atkinson is correct would like more info on Edna Margaret do not understand where newman comes from

Sidney was my father

REGARDS
Alan P

Newman was the surname she was last known to be using.

Marriage
Edna M Pritchard
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1944
Registration district: Bootle
Inferred County: Lancashire,
Spouse: George F Newman
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 545

Possible death, which would be quite sad if correct
Edna M Newman
Birth Date: abt 1915
Date of Registration: Mar 1946
Age at Death: 31
Registration district: Bootle
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 274

THANKS FOR THAT I DID NOT KNOW SHE HAD BEEN MARRIED.

regards
Alan P

Thanks that in correct she died very shortly after she married. Maybe you could help me with this: JOHN PRITCHARD born 1792 died ??? married MARY ???? IN 1820. Had (6) children CHARLOTTE ISOBELLA JOHN RICHARD THOMAS AND WILLIAM

Would like to find out when John died who his father was, MaryS MAIDEN name and when she died

regard
Alan P

Just putting this up for location:

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Prince William Street Prothrick Court, Toxteth Park, Derby, West, Lancashire, England

John Pritchard Male 49 1792 Joiner -
Mary Pritchard Female 45 1796 -
Richard Pritchard Male 19 1822 Lancashire, England
John Pritchard Male 17 1824 Lancashire, England
Isabella Pritchard Female 9 1832 Lancashire, England
Thomas Pritchard Male 5 1836 Lancashire, England
William Pritchard Male 2 1839 Lancashire, England
Charlotte Pritchard Female 10 1831 Lancashire, England
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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Clive Street, Toxteth Park Extra Parochial, West Derby, Lancashire, England

John Pritchard Head Widower Male 58 1793 Joiner (Journeyman) Wales
Charlotte Pritchard Daughter Unmarried Female 22 1829 House Keeper Toxteth Park, Lanc
Thomas Pritchard Son - Male 15 1836 Errand Boy Toxteth Park, Lancashire,
William Pritchard Son - Male 12 1839 Scholar Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England
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Possible death for Mary:
PRITCHARD, MARY age 48
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 20 Page 844

Possible marriage- occupation for John fits census:

First name(s) JOHN
Last name PRITCHARD
Marriage year 1816
Marriage day 28
Marriage month Jan
Church St Peter, Church St
Place LIVERPOOL
Groom's first name(s) John
Groom's last name Pritchard
Groom's occupation Joiner
Groom's parish Liverpool
Bride's first name(s) Mary
Bride's last name Williams
Bride's marital status Spinster
Bride's parish Liverpool
Banns or licence Banns
County Lancashire

Witnesses: Thomas ? & Richard Pritchard
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There is another marriage in 1816 for a John Pritchard to a Mary Ann Johnson- but he is listed as a Grocer, so not likely to be the correct one.

Possible birth for son William from freebmd and with MMN, Williams, from GRO:

Births Dec 1838
Pritchard William West Derby 20 776

PRITCHARD, WILLIAM WILLIAMS Order
GRO Reference: 1838 D Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 20 Page 776

THATS GREAT, Only info missing now is the following:-

death of William (born 1839)

death of John (born 1792) i.e. Williams father

name of Johns father (date of birth and death)


Many thanks

alan P

Not seeing a John Pritchard on the 1861 census in West Derby - they are all in Wales

There is one with only initials of JP who appears to be in the Workhouse as a Pauper. His trade is Joiner born in Wales in 1788 and the RD is Liverpool

Using the fairly new GRO website facility which you can search for free (you just have to register) And just searching in the West Derby RD the following comes up as a close age match i.e. 62 when he died in 1854 (he's 58 on the 1851 census)

There is no certainty that it is him, but if you buy the certificate, which you can do through the site, the informant may be a relative. The cost will be £9.25

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
Results:
PRITCHARD, JOHN 62
GRO Reference: 1854 S Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 378

Can anyone read the place of birth for John Pritchard on the 1851 census apart from Wales. Llan --------- Might help to find a possible baptism