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Further military records give his full name as George Joseph Thomas Curtis. He sailed with his unit in October 1915. In May 1916 he received a gunshot wound to the humerus. He was admitted to the Hammersmith Military Hospital, London then was sent back to Canada on Nov. 1916 aboard the SS Grampian.

His full military records are here:

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?op=pdf&app=CEF&id=B2240-S032

George's return to England in 1918, He was a clerk heading to Newton St. Loe near Bristol. Last permanent residence was Canada, he was planning to stay permanently in England,


George J T Curtis

in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
View UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: George J T Curtis
Birth Date: abt 1890
Age: 28
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 26 Oct 1918
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ship Name: Tunisian
Search Ship Database: Search for the Tunisian in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 111248

George's arrival in Canada? He was heading to Toronto, Ontario.

George J T Curtis

in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
View Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935

Name: George J T Curtis
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1890
Date of Arrival: 27 Apr 1911
Vessel: Royal George
Search Ship Database: Search for the Royal George in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Bristol, England

Could this be George in Canadian records?

Item: CURTIS, GEORGE (438961)

Name:

CURTIS, GEORGE

Regimental Number:

438961

Date of Birth:

19/10/1889

Reference:
RG 150, Accession 1992-93/166, Box 2240 - 32
Item Number:
130959
Record Group:
Canadian Expeditionary Force (CEF)

Digitized service file - PDF format:

B2240-S032

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Original says born Priston, Somerset.
Next-of-kin is mother Fanny Curtis, Newton St. Lee, near Bristol, England.

Many thanks everyone

(well think that's sorted then!)

Chris :)

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

(perhaps 11 out of 12 results relate on above, Priston)

The 04 July 1914 - Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette - Bath, Somerset, England
has the sad tale of the drowning of Lily Rosaline Curtis aged 17, daur of Fanny's eldest son John Curtis (acc to 1891 census posted), and wife Emma Butts . It was deemed to be suicide by drowning whilst in a state of temporary insanity.

Name: Lily Rosina Curtis
Baptism Date: 15 Nov 1896
Baptism Place: Twerton, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears: Twerton
Father: John William Curtis
Mother: Emma Curtis

Name: Lily Rosaline Curtis
Age: 17
Birth Year: abt 1897
Burial Date: 4 Jul 1914
Burial Place: Batheaston, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears: Batheaston

Name: John William Curtis
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1868
Marriage or Bann Date: 20 Jan 1892
Marriage Place: Twerton, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears: Twerton
Father: Stephen Curtis
Spouse: Emma Butt

Chris- Yes- that looks to be them. Original image has initial C for Florence.

Death for Florence:
First name(s) FLORENCE C
Last name CURTIS
Gender Female
Birth year 1881
Age 61
Death quarter 1
Death year 1942
District Mansfield
County Nottinghamshire
Volume 7B Page 126
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Don't think the Wincanton one can be correct though- although I'm not seeing a death yet
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Fantastic article in Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette - Saturday 02 December 1939 re Fanny's 90th Birthday.

and sadly- her obituary the following year: Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette - Saturday 27 January 1940

(scruffy version, apologies!, for 1939, really must get on here, but see below, found earlier, when looking at things ES...

Chris :)

Curtis Household (2 People)
?32 Smith Street , Mansfield M.B., Nottinghamshire, England
Edward S Curtis 27 Aug 1880 Male Colliery Shunter Married 134 1
Florence G Curtis 13 May 1880 Female Unpaid Domestic Married (think that is C, not G)


Wincanton & East Somerset Memorial Hospital , Wincanton R.D., Somerset,
Edward S Curtis Patient 21 Jun 1880 Male Inmate Of Worcestor Sanitorium Married


Deaths Dec 1941 (>99%)
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Curtis Edward S 61 Wincanton 5c 841

Oooh Gawd- Ancestry had his place of birth incorrectly transcribed as Lancashire!! That'll teach me for not looking at the original


FMP transciption:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
46 Lord St Mansfield, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England

Esward Stephen Curtis Head Married Male Colliery Shunter Above 30 1881 Keysham Somerset
Florence Clara Curtis Wife Married Female - 30 1881 St Albans Herts
Arthur Edward Curtis Son - Male - 6 1905 Mansfield Nottingham
Gladys Curtis Daughter - Female - 5 1906 Mansfield Nottingham
Doris Curtis Daughter - Female - 3 1908 Mansfield Nottingham
Amy Blanche Curtis Daughter - Female - 1 1910 Mansfield Nottingham
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(lol, this isn't getting Monday morning chores done here!, don't you just love newspapers!, right, will leave you to it, and well done)

Chris :)

Well found Chris!

And it confirms we had the correct record for William.

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D2052266

(see Edward Stephen (22700) above, think they have linked him with article (just now found!) below...(he is in it as Edward S. Curtis 22700)

(his Service Record on FMP, with Marriage below)

(Curtis Edward Stephen 1882 — 1915 British Army Service Records)

Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
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Curtis Edward Stephen St. Albans 3a 1161
Luck Florence Clara St. Albans 3a 1161

Chris :)

09 October 1915 - Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette - Bath, Somerset

FIVE SONS WITH THE COLOURS

“... Private Arthur A. Curtis, No. 2050. 6th Welsh Regt ' Driver William Curtis, No. 20887, 14th Glouecrs (attached A.S.C.); and George Curtis, of the Canadian Expeditionary Force, now quartered at Shorncliffe. These two records are excellent examples, of the patriotic ...”

We now have Fred and William accounted for above-

So are you assuming the E S Curtis with the Sherwood Foresters is Edward George? Do you have Edward on the 1911 census?

England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1914

Name: Edward George Curtis
Baptism Date: 5 Dec 1880
Baptism Place: Priston, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears: Priston
Father: Stephen Curtis (Labourer)
Mother: Fanny Curtis
Abode: Wilmington
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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Top Road, Village, Newton St Loe, Keynsham, Somerset, England

Charles Lapham Head Married Male 46 1855 Agricultural Labourer Kilmington, Somerset
Sarah Lapham Wife Married Female 49 1852 - Somerset, England
Ellen Ball Visitor Single Female 14 1887 - Somerset, England
Edwin Woodham Boarder Single Male 24 1877 Carter On Farm Marshfield, Gloucestershire
Frank Parfitt Boarder Single Male 21 1880 Gamekeeper Priston, Somerset,
Edward Curtis Boarder Single Male 20 1881 Groom & Gardener (Domestic) Wilmington, Somerset,
George Withurs Boarder Single Male 19 1882 Gardener (Domestic) Priston, Somerset,

Hi all Austin Q Yes the family was very large and from the Somerset area but the problem I keep getting is that they keep changing the names around Edwin used George as his middle name ,I have checked the CWGC and cannot find anything there I have also been to the church at Newton St Loe where ( Fred )Curtis is mentioned as serving in WW1 I did not give you enough info sorry

Not seeing anything military for Edward/ Edwin/ ES Curtis

Thanks Chris- missed that article.

possible for William:

Silver War Badge Roll Transcription
First name(s) Wm.
Last name Curtis
Service number 116192
Rank Private
Badge number 308760
Enlistment date 25-May-1915
Discharge date 11-Jan-1918
Regiment/unit Labour Corps: 365th Coy ex 14th Glos. R.
Cause of discharge Para Army Order 265/1917. Para 392 Sickness xvi (a) (i)
Whether served overseas Yes
Badge date of issue 07-Feb-1918
Age on discharge 40
Additional Info Old Reg No. 22911
Record set Silver War Badge Roll 1914-1920
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
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Medal Index Cards Transcription

First name(s) William
Last name Curtis
Year 1914-20
Service number 20887, 116192
Second service number 116192
Rank Private,Private
Second rank Private
Regiment Gloucestershire Regiment, Labour Corps
Second corps Labour Corps
Service record Soldier Number: 20887, Rank: Private, Corps: Gloucestershire Regiment
Second service record Soldier Number: 116192, Rank: Private, Corps: Labour Corps
Image link http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D2054117
Country Great Britain
Medal type British Army Medal Index Cards, 1914-1920
Archive reference WO372/5

(think below was seen AQ, mention in it of five sons)

(and well done on Frederick, looks like possible 9 children on below link)

http://www.bathbmd.org.uk/

Chris :)

20 November 1915 - Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette - Bath, Somerset

LOCAL WAR ITEMS

“... him. NEWTON ST. LOE PATRIOTISM. The Hon. Slrt. Paget Bayly, wife of the Rector Newton St. Lot. having his Majesty's attention the fact that Mrs. Curtis, of Newton, has five with the Colours, the following letter has been received by Mrs. Curtis:—" Priv ...”

I wonder if they forgot which child had which second name?? (Edwin/ Edward are often interchangeable)

CURTIS, EDWIN GEORGE mmn: FRANCIS
GRO Reference: 1880 D Quarter in KEYNSHAM Volume 05C Page 605

CURTIS, WILLIAM STEPHEN mmn: FRANCIS
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in BATH Volume 05C Page 593

Frederick Charles Curtis looks to be correct Chris:

CURTIS, FREDERICK CHARLES Mother's maiden name: FRANCIS
GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in BATH Volume 05C Page 651

British Army Service Records 1914-1920 Transcription
First name(s) Frederick Charles
Last name Curtis
Age 39
Birth year 1875
Birth town Wilmington
Birth county Somerset
Birth country England
Service number 3064
Regiment Army Service Corps
Year 1915
Residence county Somerset (Newton St Loe, Bath)
Series WO 364

Wife: Mrs E Curtis
Married Emily Sarah Barnfield 24th August 1912
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Frederick in 1939: (fanny also on same page at 17 Newton St Loe)

Curtis Household (2 People) 24 Newton Street , Bathavon R.D., Somerset, England

Frederick C Curtis 09 May 1876 Male Under Gardener Married
Emily S Curtis 03 Mar 1875 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married