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thank you Argyligran & AustinQ
I went back through some old record I had stored and when pansy Campbell died they were living at 3 waters court ,hotwells, Bristol then my dads address is down as 6 Clifton wood terrace Clifton Bristol on 24/04/31 and on one of the certificates james Campbell is down as ( jas Campbell ) a shoemaker ( journeyman )

For the record, that's the same address as in 1939.

[I know you've checked that, AQ]

Living in Ambra Vale in 1937:

Western Daily Press 25 January 1937

Landslide in Gardens in Clifton Wood

Tons of earth crashed 20 feet into the carriageway at Ambrose Road, Clifton Wood, Bristol on Saturday when a landslide occurred in two gardens...
Half the back garden of Mr James Campbell of 50 Ambra Vale East also crashed into Ambrose Road...

my aunty thought it was around 1896 but she wasn't sure could have been earlier

The army records are from Ancestry, David.

After finding James in 1939 with the children, with DOB in 1885, I was only looking for James Campbells with births c1885, so all the army records (in fact everything after I posted the 1939 record) is on that basis.

But of course the DOB stated in 1939 may not be correct.

Where did you find the YOB of 1896? Is that likely to be more correct than 1885?

sorry I tried but my aunty didn't know any more about her dad and my aunty Shirley who was born Shirley sharkey wont talk to me as I am a Campbell sad really .
with that information about a boot & shoe operative I sort of remember that he could have been one as I think it was said that my uncle jim (james) and my dad (john) took after there father by becoming shoe repairs
once again thank you I don't know how you know were to look for all this info a I have tried and not found anything on james Campbell 1896 ???
P.S
I know pasty only lived for about 6 months but all the other children are right 4were born in or around Bristol and Shirley born in surrey

This man had been in the 3rd Black Watch before date of this document, (June 1915 ) and had bought his discharge:


James Campbell
in the British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: James Campbell
Gender: Male
Document Year: 1915
Residence Place: 20 St Andrew Street, Dundee
Regimental Number: 305295

He was a gas fitter, and his religion was Episcopal.
Regiment Name: Ha Fa Artile RAMC TF
Number of Images: 15
Form Title: Territorial Force Attestation

Name Relation to Soldier
James Campbell Self (Head)

His mother was Margaret Campbell, at the above address.
5ft 7ins tall.

Appointed to 3rd Highland Field Ambulance.

BUT -

Age 22 - so born c1893, so not our man.

If, perhaps, he went back to Dundee later in life, there's this possible death:

CAMPBELL
JAMES
66
1951
282/3 773
St Andrew (Dundee)


But James Campbell is a very common name.

Unfortunately James's DOB doesn't help with finding his death.

All the deaths of 1885 James Campbells in England/Wales are just for men born c1885 - no actual date given.
None of them are in Bristol.

Pansy Campbell, who was born 1924 in Wellingborough, died 1925:

Deaths Mar 1925 (>99%)
Campbell Pansy 0 Bristol 6a 17

Or another possibility:



James Camble
in the 1891 Scotland Census
Name: James Camble
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 282/2
Registration district: St Mary
Civil Parish: Dundee
Town: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: West Port 11
ED: 13
Household schedule number: 11
LINE: 2
Roll: CSSCT1891_90
Jessie Camble 36
John Camble 40
Elizabeth Camble 36
Martha Camble 75
Thomas Camble 14
James Camble 6
Susan Camble 3

(and large numbers of other people)

????

James Campbell
in the 1891 Scotland Census
Name: James Campbell
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relationship: Son
Father's name: James Campbell
Mother's name: Margaret Campbell
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 282/4
Registration district: St Andrew
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 5 Wallace St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 7
Household schedule number: 4
LINE: 13
Roll: CSSCT1891_93
Household Members:
Name Age
James Campbell 36
Margaret Campbell 36
Jessie Campbell 10
George Campbell 8
James Campbell 6
Isabella Campbell 3
Jane Campbell 1
William Campbell 14

???

James Campbell
in the 1911 England Census
Name: James Campbell
Age in 1911: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Birth Place: Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland
Search Photos:
County/Island: Military
Country: England
Military Unit: 1st Battalion Kings Own Scothish Borders
Registration District Number: 641
ED, institution, or vessel: India
Piece: 34990

A different man ??

James Campbell
in the British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
Name: James Campbell
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1885
Birth Place: Dundee, Forfar
Age: 19
Document Year: 1904
Regimental Number: 8194
Regiment Name: Connaught Rangers
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Number of Images: 23

Was already in 3rd Royal Highlanders in 1904.
Labourer, mill worker.
5ft 3.5ins, fresh complexion, brown eyes, dark brown hair.

I think it says he was in the Connaught Rangers in Galway, and then in Mullingar.
Then served in Poona, India.

Intended place of residence (on discharge in 1907 ?? ) 7 Mary Street, Dundee.

Then there's a bit about discharge in 1914:
on medical grounds - tuberculosis which had originated in Lochee, Dundee, while on reserve.
Address in 1914: 29 Lorne (or maybe Lorna) Street, Lochee, Dundee.

NOK: sister, Catherine Campbell, 22 Mid Street, Lochee.

EDIT -

Maybe not the right James Campbell.
There's a small note at the bottom of one page which says either "Man died" or "Mum died. More likely "man died" 30/08/1917.

Bessie and Andrew in 1939:

Elizabeth Sharkey
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Elizabeth Sharkey
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 14 Apr 1903
Residence Year: 1939
Address: ??3 Grove Lane
Residence Place: Kingston-upon-Thames, Surrey, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 373
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: CMRC
Registration district: 30-1
Inferred Spouse: Andrew Sharkey
Household Members:
Name
Andrew Sharkey
Elizabeth Sharkey

Here are the children, with JAMES Campbell :

Daisy Campbell
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Daisy Campbell
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 7 Oct 1926
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 50
Residence Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Occupation: At School
Schedule Number: 139
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: OAAR
Registration district: 319/1
Household Members:
Name
James Campbell - 12/03/1885, boot & shoe operative.
Daisy Campbell
Jim Campbell - 1930
Jack Campbell - 1931

"patsy died 1924"

I think you mean Pansy, born 1924 in Wellingborough?

For our reference -

Daisy, John and James were all born in Bristol.

Shirley born in Surrey.

Bessie Roberts born 14/04/1903 died 02/02/1976
children
patsy died 1924
daisy born 1926
john born 1930
james born 1931
Shirley sharkey born 1940

As she married in Surrey, these might be possible births of Sharkey children, all born in Surrey :

Bridget M, 1938
Robert P, 1939
Shirley, 1940 3rd qr
Kathleen E, 1940 4th qr
John F, 1947
Dorothy A V, 1950

Of course, the two 1940 births can't both be children of the same parents.

And do you know her exact date of birth? That might help us to pick out her death from several for women of that name, born c1903.

David,
Was there any children born between Elizabeth and James Campbell,if so where and any names,dates would help.

Where/when did Elizabeth Sharkey die.?

hi to all a big thanks for your time and help with the information its hard to know were to look and being the other side of the world I cant go to any of the shows to get advice
cheers