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Hi, I am trying find more about Ellen Goller's parents please. Ellen c.1854 - 1907, was definitely born and died in Fulham. Her mother I think was Honorah, who lived circa 1820 - c. 1877 and her father(?) Daniel Gollihar c. 1818 - c.1886.
All the information I have points to Ireland as their place of birth. Maybe the south rather than the north - family stories suggest that.
Ellen married Michael Callan b:1852 d: 1902 -again, Fulham - but again the name seems to have changed from Callan to Clarn by the next generation. .

Thanks

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Marriage certificate will give her father's name and occupation.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1877 (>99%)
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Callan Michael Fulham 1a 407
GOLLER Elien Fulham 1a 407
GOLLER Ellen Fulham 1a 407

Pam....Your original thread was May 2008 so it may be worthwhile stating what info.you have obtained since then...saves duplicating anything you may already have discounted....

For ref. There is an Ellen Goller marriage to Michael Callan on the family search site ...this corresponds with what "rootgatherer" has posted however the entry on the family search site despite being "extracted" shows same marriage 2 different dates...11 March 1877 and 29 April 1877..both Hammersmith...one states St Pauls Parish.
Also listed a Marriage of Daniel Goller to a Catherine Rowland 31 Jan 1870.
Bridget Goller to George Mecoy..(probably McCoy) 30 June 1868
Father on all listed above ..Daniel Goller.
1871 Census for Hammersmith should help identify family

Thank you Eringobragh1916, sage advice. I am a tiny bit more experinced than I was but still in need of loads of help please.

1. I have established that Michael CALLAN m: Ellen Goller at St Paul's Church Hammersmith on April 29th 1877. Marriage Certificate. They were my Great Grandparents.

2. I know that Michael's father -stated on marriage certificate was Jeremiah CALLAN, Gardener

3. I know Ellen's father, again from the certificate, was Daniel GOLLER, Bricklayer.
both families are listed as Britannia Court

4. Bridget Goller (Ellen's sister) married George McCoy 30 June 1868


I have found the records of all of Michael and Ellen's children going by the surname of CLARN

This is all so confusing to this poor antipodean girl! How do I get more info on the Irish background or any thing else?

Thanks

Thanks again Eringobragh1916, you have now found Daniel Goller's (junior) marriage to Catherine Rowland. That's great, thanks again.

P x

connected? 1881

John KEEFE Head M Male 27 Fulham, Middlesex, England Flower Hawker
Katherine KEEFE Wife M Female 30 Fulham, Middlesex, England
Hannah KEEFE Daughter Female 10 Fulham, Middlesex, England
Ellen GOLLER Daur Step Female 10 Fulham, Middlesex, England Scholar
James GOLLER Step Son Male 8 Fulham, Middlesex, England
Ellen ROWDER Mother M Female 60 Ireland Servant


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Source Information:
Dwelling 7 Prospect Place
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341015
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0068 / 64
Page Number 43

Thanks Ann of Green Gables,
Gee, I don't know but perhaps it's unlikely - unless I have the wrong family altogether!
The only James Goller I have found so far was born in 1841 and then the name was still Gollihar.
As for Ellen's, I have Ellen born 1853, my Great grandmother, and then her daughter, my GGreat Aunt Ellen, born 1881.

The ones you gave me were the wrong ages in 1881 - unless as I said before, I'm following the wrong family.

Thanks anyway, I am grateful for all the help and advice I can get.

P x

Pam....Re Ellens parents...
There is a Death Reg.Sept 1877 Fulham for a Honora Gollen..aged 57.
also a one for Daniel Goller 1886 aged 68....which corresponds with your approx.for Daniel (1818-1886) and Honora.

Thanks so much Eringobragh1916, the dates look right I agree.

Thanks again,

P x

Mistranscribed in 1871 - image says Galler:

1871 England Census
about Ellen Ealler
Name: Ellen Ealler
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Daniel
Mother's Name: Honorah
Gender: Female
Where born: Fulham, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Ealler 48 Bricklayers labourer, b Ireland
Honorah Ealler 50 greengrocer shop, b Ireland
James Ealler 30 son, married, greengrocer, b Middlesex, Fulham
David Ealler 23 son, married, labourer, b Fulham
Catherine Ealler 22 wife, married, b Fulham
Ellen Ealler 18 daughter, single, b Fulahm, Laundress
Daniel Ealler son??? born Fulham

1861 as Gollihar - image is Gallihar:
1861 England Census
about Ellen Gollihar
Name: Ellen Gollihar
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Daniel
Mother's Name: Honora
Gender: Female
Where born: Fulham, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Leonard
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Holywell
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 123
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Gollihar 42
Honora Gollihar 46
James Gollihar 22 labourer
Daniel Gollihar 15 gun maker
Bridget Gollihar 13
Ellen Gollihar 8
Honora Donovan 24 Lodger born Ireland
Thomas Jervim 29 ditto
Children all born Fulham

1851

1851 England Census
about Daniel Gallagher
Name: Daniel Gallagher
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Daniel
Mother's Name: Harrison
Gender: Male
Where born: Fulham, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Fulham
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 152
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Gallagher 31
Harrison Gallagher 34 - Honora on image
James Gallagher 10
Mary Gallagher 8
Daniel Gallagher 4
Bridget Gallagher 2

I can't find the family in 1841 but wonder if this is Bridget's birth reg:


Name: Bridget Gulliar
Year of Registration: 1849
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Kensington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 3
Page: 353 (click to see others on page)

Pam...Have hunted 1881 Census for Daniel...came up with this...you will need to check original to see if another Mis Transcription...have not been able to locate a "Donald" at all prior to this...
No Birth reg. Donald b Fulham (g.son)
Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Donald GOLLER Head W Male 65 Ireland Labourer
James GOLLER Son W Male 40 Fulham, Middlesex, England Costermonger
Donald GOLLER Grandson Male 14 Fulham, Middlesex, England Errand Boy


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Source Information:
Dwelling 95 Royalston Rd
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341016
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0070 / 61
Page Number 20
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Erin,

Definitely Donald on image and age is out for Donald/Daniel jnr - he was 7 on the 1871 - but it could be the same family. James's occupation ties in (Greengrocer/Costermonger).

I will see if I can find them in 1891.

Groom's Name: Michael Callan
Groom's Birth Date: 1852
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 25
Bride's Name: Ellen Goller
Bride's Birth Date: 1855
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 22
Marriage Date: 29 Apr 1877
Marriage Place: Hammersmith, Middlesex, England
Groom's Father's Name: Jeremiah Callan
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Daniel Goller
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01168-7
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1966294
Reference Number: 424
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

Pam...That is "Donalds" grandson aged 14 He is son of James Goller who is down as a Widower also.
Not to be confused with Daniel jnr.who was son of Daniel (father of Ellen)

Erin, I think the Daniel in the 1871 should have been down as Grandson, and is the son of James as there was another Daniel whose marriage you found:

Also listed a Marriage of Daniel Goller to a Catherine Rowland 31

I can't find anything in the 1891 or the 1841.

Pam...Have spent nearly the last Hour trying to figure these lot out...
Cant find a marriage for James...
Cant find a birth for Daniel (donald)
Cant figure out why the Goller's are living with the OKeefe's ...have tried cross ref and checking if it was Kaths 2 nd marriage..and J O'Keefes also ..nothing..What a mess..!!