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Wendy
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3 Feb 2011 16:29 |
Hello Everyone Please can you help me again I have tried to find Richard Higgs born 1790 West Hanney,Berks,his wife Mary born 1819 in South Molton,Devon and son Richard born 1840 in Paddington on the 1841 census.There were more children but they were all born after the 1841 census.I have my family in 1851( FGGS),1861 and 1871.By 1881 Mary was a widow.Fingers crossed you will have better luck than me!!!!!!!! Regards Wendy
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3 Feb 2011 16:32 |
Christened aged 11 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RICHARD HIGGS Event(s): Birth: 14 MAR 1840 Christening: 12 JAN 1851 Saint James, Paddington, London, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: RICHARD HIGGS Mother: MARIANNE
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3 Feb 2011 16:35 |
Other Children of Richard and Mary Anne (this time). All christened same day - job lot.
1. GEORGE HIGGS - Birth: 10 SEP 1850 Gender: Male Christening: 12 JAN 1851 Saint James, Paddington, London, England 2. MARY ANNE HIGGS -Birth: 16 JUL 1842 Gender: Female Christening: 12 JAN 1851 Saint James, Paddington, London, England 3. EMMA HIGGS - Birth: 11 MAY 1848 Gender: Female Christening: 12 JAN 1851 Saint James, Paddington, London, England 4. HENRY HIGGS - Birth: 19 FEB 1844 Gender: Male Christening: 12 JAN 1851 Saint James, Paddington, London, England
Begs the question - did the parents only christen the children once they were married ?
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Astra
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3 Feb 2011 16:36 |
All noted as not being born in the County. It's very faded and I can't make out Richard's occupation very well but it could be Lock Keeper??
HIGGS, Richard M 45 1796 VIEW HIGGS, Mary F 25 1816 VIEW HIGGS, Richard M 1 (15 months) 1840 VIEW HIGGS, Eleanor F 30 1811 VIEW FRAYHEARNE, John M 35 1806 VIEW Civil Parish: St Thomas Municipal Borough: Southwark Address: St Thomas Street, East, St Thomas, Southwark County: Surrey
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Mike *
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3 Feb 2011 16:59 |
Wendy remember that the ages of adults were rounded down to the nearest 5 in 1841 so not always accurate..
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AnnCardiff
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3 Feb 2011 17:00 |
Richard Higgs England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1790 — West Hanney, Berkshire, England residence: Kidlington, Oxford, England record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: Richard Higgs age: 91 gender: Male birth year: 1790 birthplace: West Hanney, Berkshire, England relationship to head of household: Head marital condition: Widowed profession / occupation: Annuitant address: Pri Ho Mill St census place: Kidlington, Oxford, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341365 the national archives reference: RG11 piece / folio: 1511 / 52 page number: 6
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AnnCardiff
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3 Feb 2011 17:01 |
Richard Higgs England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 14 Mar 1840 residence: London, England parents: Richard Higgs, Marianne record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Richard Higgs gender: Male baptism/christening date: 12 Jan 1851 baptism/christening place: SAINT JAMES,PADDINGTON,LONDON,ENGLAND birth date: 14 Mar 1840 father's name: Richard Higgs mother's name: Marianne indexing project (batch) number: C13343-2 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 579297
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LondonBelle
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3 Feb 2011 17:02 |
This may be something and thereagain it may be nothing....but this is following on from what Mike has said about Richard and Mary Ann perhaps marrying after the children were born
The address given on all the 5 childrens baptism is Elms Lane Paddington
I've found this marriage
Name: Richard Higgs (Batchelor) occ Working in Laundry Age: 70 Estimated birth year: abt 1790 Spouse Name: Mary Ann Tepper (Spinster) occ Laundress Spouse Age: 42 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 11 Oct 1860 Parish: Holy Trinity, Paddington County: Middlesex Borough: Westminster Father Name: William Higgs deceased Spouse Father Name: George Tepper occ Tailor
Address given for both Elms Lane Paddington
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AnnCardiff
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3 Feb 2011 17:03 |
Richard HIGGS Compact Disc #59 Pin #526131 Pedigree Sex: M
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s) Christening: 22 Feb 1690 West Hanney,Berkshire,England Burial: 8 Oct 1752 West Hanney,Berkshire,England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents Father: Richard HIGGS Disc #59 Pin #526142 Mother: Anne Disc #59 Pin #526143
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriage(s) Spouse: Ann PEARCE Disc #59 Pin #526132 Marriage: 1732 (West Hanney,Berkshire,England)
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AnnCardiff
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3 Feb 2011 17:04 |
Richard Higgs Compact Disc #91 Pin #305658 Pedigree Sex: M
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s) Birth: abt 1664 Of West Hanney, Berkshire, England Burial: 26 Oct 1717 West Hanney, Berkshire, England
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriage(s) Spouse: Anne Disc #91 Pin #305659 Marriage: abt 1689 Of West Hanney, Berkshire, England
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Wendy
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3 Feb 2011 17:12 |
Thanks everyone this is my Richard and Mary's marriage record,I don't know why they married so late.Astra I will see if I can find where Eleanor Higgs fits in.They were living at 6 Elms Lane Paddington in 1851 but when I tried an address search for 1841 using Elms Lane it couldn't be found? Wendy
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AnnCardiff
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3 Feb 2011 17:15 |
1881
Rice HIGGS Head M Male 56 West Hanney, Berkshire, England Ag Lab Hannah HIGGS Wife M Female 39 West Hanney, Berkshire, England William HIGGS Son U Male 16 West Hanney, Berkshire, England Ag Lab Elizabeth HIGGS Daur Female 12 West Hanney, Berkshire, England Scholar Leah HIGGS Daur Female 10 West Hanney, Berkshire, England Scholar George HIGGS Son Male 8 West Hanney, Berkshire, England Scholar John HIGGS Son Male 7 West Hanney, Berkshire, England Scholar Edwin HIGGS Son Male 5 West Hanney, Berkshire, England Scholar Martha HIGGS Daur Female 4 West Hanney, Berkshire, England Robert HIGGS Son Male 2 West Hanney, Berkshire, England Rice HIGGS Son Male 1 West Hanney, Berkshire, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Back Street Census Place East & West Hanney, Berkshire, England Family History Library Film 1341313 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1288 / 70 Page Number 10
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AnnCardiff
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3 Feb 2011 17:16 |
1881
Eli HIGGS Head M Male 46 West Hanney, Berkshire, England Ag Lab Martha HIGGS Wife M Female 45 West Hanney, Berkshire, England Thomas HIGGS Son Male 12 West Hanney, Berkshire, England Plough Boy James HIGGS Son Male 10 West Hanney, Berkshire, England Errand Boy Grocers Thirza HIGGS Daur Female 8 West Hanney, Berkshire, England Scholar Mercy M. HIGGS Daur Female 5 West Hanney, Berkshire, England Scholar Annie HIGGS Daur Female 3 West Hanney, Berkshire, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Back Street Census Place East & West Hanney, Berkshire, England Family History Library Film 1341313 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1288 / 69 Page Number 7
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AnnCardiff
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3 Feb 2011 17:18 |
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William HIGGS Head M Male 49 East Hanney, Berkshire, England Ag Lab Ellen HIGGS Wife M Female 45 East Hanney, Berkshire, England Fanny HIGGS Daur U Female 17 East Hanney, Berkshire, England Domestic Serv Unemployed Sarah HIGGS Daur Female 6 East Hanney, Berkshire, England Scholar Ada HIGGS Daur Female 4 East Hanney, Berkshire, England Scholar Susan HIGGS Daur Female 1 East Hanney, Berkshire, England Ellen HIGGS Grand Daur Female 10 m East Hanney, Berkshire, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Village Street Census Place East & West Hanney, Berkshire, England Family History Library Film 1341313 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1288 / 79 Page Number 27
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AnnCardiff
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3 Feb 2011 17:18 |
my maternal line - Breakspear - all lived in the same streets as your Higgs!!!!
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3 Feb 2011 17:21 |
Eleanor Sophia Higgs England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 residence: London, England parents: Francis Higgs, Ellen record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Eleanor Sophia Higgs gender: Female baptism/christening date: 26 Feb 1866 baptism/christening place: HOLY TRINITY,PADDINGTON,LONDON,ENGLAND father's name: Francis Higgs mother's name: Ellen indexing project (batch) number: C04247-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number:
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AnnCardiff
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3 Feb 2011 17:23 |
Mary Higgs England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 residence: Devon, England parents: John Higgs, Elizabeth
Mary A Higgs England and Wales Census, 1861 birth: South Molton, Devonshire record title: England and Wales Census, 1861 name: Mary A Higgs age: 44 gender: Female birthplace: South Molton, Devonshire relationship to head of household: Wife record type: Household
Mary Ann Higgs England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1819 — South Molton, Devon, England residence: Willesden, Middlesex, England record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: Mary Ann Higgs age: 62 gender: Female birth year: 1819 birthplace: South Molton, Devon, England relationship to head of household: Sister marital condition: Widowed profession / occupation: Laundress address: 79 Canterbury Rd census place: Willesden, Middlesex, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341330 the national archives reference: RG11 piece / folio: 1362 / 95 page number:
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LondonBelle
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3 Feb 2011 17:25 |
Wendy, I note you say that Mary was a widow by the 1881 census but the Richard Higgs born West Hanney was still alive and living in Oxfordshire. Perhaps your Richard was born Coleshill Berks as per the 1861 census if so then the following could be his baptism which ties in with the father given on the marriage
RICHARD HIGGS Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 10 APR 1792 Coleshill, Berkshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: WILLIAM HIGGS Family Mother: MIRIAM Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Wendy
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3 Feb 2011 17:26 |
Thanks everyone My Higgs all came from West Hanney in the early years.Richard and Mary married after the children were born as Mike says I haven't a clue why they left it so late. I will have a look at the 1841 entry that Asta pointed out. In 1851 they lived at 6 Elms Lane Paddington but when I tried an Elms Lane address for 1841 it couldn't be found. Thanks again Wendy
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Wendy
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3 Feb 2011 17:29 |
Hi Londonbelle My Richard was born in West Hanney 24/03/1790. Wendy
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