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trying to find who my grandmother married and when

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Emma Report 8 Apr 2008 14:29

hi my late fathers mother was born phyllis m bishop 1895 she had my father in 1933 in new forest but rejistered him the following year i cant find death record of marrige record for her i know she died young anyone able to help id be very greatfull i have no parents left now and would love to discover some family lol


WayneTracey Report 8 Apr 2008 14:35


Can you give us the full name of your father?

It is quite common for year end births to be recordr the following year. You have 6 weeks to register a birth.



WayneTracey Report 8 Apr 2008 14:37

Births Jun 1895

Bishop Phyllis Mary Cranbrook 2a 792


WayneTracey Report 8 Apr 2008 14:43

I would suggest that this maybe her marriage?

Marriages Jun 1927 (88%)

Bishop Phyllis M Axbridge 5c 1047
GACHET Augustus E B Axbridge 5c 1047

Without you coming back and giving us your fathers name it'll be difficult to prove.


Reggie Report 8 Apr 2008 15:25

I suspect that you are looking for a marriage after your father was I right?

Just checked.......he was registered as Bishop in JFM 1934.

It would have helped if you had mentioned this in your posting.........


Emma Report 8 Apr 2008 18:00

sorry was mucking horses out my dads full name was dennis philip bishop born 1933 his mother on birth certif was not married and no father mentioned i remember dad saying she got married and he was put into his grans care in barton on sea/new forest sorry reggie yes his mother wasnt married prior to birth


WayneTracey Report 9 Apr 2008 11:24

So you are looking for any possible 1/2 siblings to your father after he was given up to his grandmother and his mother remarried?

I'll take a look for you


WayneTracey Report 9 Apr 2008 11:56

Phyllis on the 1901 census....

1901 England Census

Name: Phyllis Bishop
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Ethel
Gender: Female
Where born: Cranbrook, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Cranbrook
Ecclesiastical parish: St Dunstan
Town: Cranbrook
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Cranbrook
Sub-registration district: Cranbrook

Archibald Bishop 3
Ethel Bishop 30
Fred Bishop 1
James Bishop 28
Phyllis Bishop 5

It might be worth you doing a search on here and Ancestry to see if there are any of Phyllis's sibling's families on here!!


WayneTracey Report 9 Apr 2008 12:15

Found a marriage

Phyllis M Bishop married Edward Harrison, New Forest, 2b 2089, 4Q 1936

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 9 Apr 2008 13:02

I don't know if this is relevant........

Initials: E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Middlesex Regiment
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 25
Date of Death: 28/10/1942
Service No: 6202330
Additional information: Husband of Phyllis Mary Harrison, of Tiptoe, Hampshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Brit. Sec. B. B. 4.

Tiptoe is near Lymington, Hampshire....near New Forest.


Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 9 Apr 2008 13:27

Do you know the name of your father's grandmother who looked after him?
We need to be sure that we have the correct person?
If we know her full name, hopefully we can check back to find her marriage and then children.



Emma Report 9 Apr 2008 17:26

oh my goodnes the harrison rings a bell my dad once said something about a boyfriend i was seeing completly didnt seem important to now he asked where thay came from thankyou so much i dont know the grans name tipto is very local to where he was born and grew up ohh thankyou

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 9 Apr 2008 17:42

It is possible that Phyllis married again if she was a young widow........

If you think the marriage to HARRISON is likely to be her, it would be useful to find out her age by buying a copy of the certificate.


Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 9 Apr 2008 17:58

I don't know if Tiptoe has it's own parish records but now that you think this might be her and you know she was alive in October 1942, you could search the parish registers for more information about her....early death? remarriage?

You could do this in Winchester ( when Record Office reopens) or maybe a main library nearer her parish would have copies.



Emma Report 9 Apr 2008 18:40

have found a lady on hear with phyllis archibald and fred on her tree lets hope she gets back to me


Emma Report 9 Apr 2008 19:16

the gran that looked after him lived in grove rd barton on sea new milton hampshire i presume it was ethel bishop is there any way to search this address?? for around 1945-1950?

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 9 Apr 2008 20:02

Old electoral lists can be searched at main libraries or archives local to the address.

They are arranged with alphabetical listings of streets, so it should be straight forward to check Grove Road.

Some libraries will do this if you contact them, ...others won't.


Emma Report 9 Apr 2008 20:18

ok ive done the math this harrison could have been my dads dad but phyllis would not have put him on birth certif as he was only 15 she married him 3 years later when he was 18 does this seem poss as i wouldnt think his parents would have given permission as he was so young and she was much older

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 9 Apr 2008 20:26

Have you got an actual record saying that your Phyllis was born in 1895?

That would be a big age gap.
Not impossible but just wondering.....

Edward wood need to be 21 to marry without parental permission.


Emma Report 9 Apr 2008 20:57

going to get the marridge cert that will give me her age wont it?