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These corrections must have to do with your searching, Kelly.

This note:

23/03/2009 FRIBBENS

has been added to this entry:

Marriages Sep 1890
Fribbene Elizabeth St. Saviour 1d 198
Fribbens Elizabeth St. Saviour 1d 198
Waller William St. Saviour 1d 198
Wall_r William St. Saviour 1d 198

and also one about Waller:

23/03/2009 WALLER
FATHER Isaac Waller

>> which is *not* the information you have???

Well, I still like the Tribbance - Moulder marriage.

I wish Kelly would explain this Waller business.


Births Mar 1844
MOULDER Esther Brentford 3 4

-- someone has corrected that entry, as well, but it may have been FreeBMD itself.

Found Henry, John and Elizabeth all born in Uxbridge:

Births Jun 1869
Fribance Elizabeth Annie Uxbridge 3a 35

This will give you Esther's maiden name.

Rose

Oh good grief.

"i have the birth cert for thomas henry waller, mothers maiden name esther elizabeth waller , then i have esther's birth cert parents elizabeth waller formaly fribbens esther was reg at 4 adelaids place peckham if this helps"


This is Thomas Henry Waller, GRANDSON of Henry Fribbens and Esther.

The Esther whose birth certificate you have is also the GRANDDAUGHTER of Henry Fribbens and Esther.

Aaaaargh.

I understood this to mean that you had the birth certificate of Esther, the WIFE of Henry Fribbens.


This is your marriage:

Marriages Jun 1865
Carter Frances Mary Uxbridge 3a 39
Chapman Charles Uxbridge 3a 39
* Moulder Esther Uxbridge 3a 39
> Tribbance Henry Charles Uxbridge 3a 39

but order the certificate in the name

HENRY CHARLES TRIBBANCE only.

To save wear and tear, I checked the image. That is what it says.

The error occurred either on the marriage certificate itself, or in the transcription into the GRO index.


And this will be Esther's birth:


Births Mar 1844
MOULDER Esther
Brentford
vol 3 page 4


You have info in this thread for ordering birth certificates for children of Henry Fribbens and Esther, and you should get one of them too.

I'm quite sure I'll be right about the marriage, but you need a child's birth certificate to get Esther's surname.

sorry for not replyi ng sooner but this comp keeps shutting down, i will do as you said in the mor ning, i am sorry for causing so many problems,
thank you for your kindness and patience

kelly

And be sure to report back when you have 'em.

We all enjoy being smug. ;)

yes you will be first to know

thank you

kelly x

Right I can go to bed now !

1871 England Census about Henry Febbam
Name: Henry Febbam
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles H
Mother's Name: Esther
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwood, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Sunbury
Town: Sunbury
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View Image
Registration district: Staines
Sub registration district: Sunbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 318
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles H Febbam age too crossed out to read b Wilts
Esther Febbam 28 ealing
Henry Febbam 5
John Febbam 4
Elizabeth Febbam 2 Norwood

That's where they were.

Here's Esther in 1851, also in Norwood:


1851 England Census
about Hester Moulder
Name: Hester Moulder
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Elizth Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Ealing, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Norwood
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Uxbridge
Sub registration district: Hillingdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
George Moulder 30
Elizth Jane Moulder 27
Hester Moulder 7
Emma Moulder 5
James Thos Moulder 2

Rose

right to answer your questions before this shuts down again, it started with my mum who is linda king, east dulwich,se london, her father was thomas henry king, his father was walter king who married a esther elizabeth waller,in 1912 who had children thomas henry,1915 william,1913 rose king in 1918 esther died about then, esther mother was elizabeth fribbens who married william waller in1890 august, parents williams father, was isaac waller coal porter, elizabeth father was henry fribbens (dec) witness to this wedding was thomas woods and sarah ann (looks like)vinton, at st saviours,london lived at canterbury rd in the parish of southwark.,

i now have all the info on isaac waller to get there marriage cert,if there is one
lindsey:- all the info you give on page 1 here fits including the address of canterbury rd, london, this address is on the marriage cert i have,
i am going to get the birth cert for a child of heather and henry fribbens to get her maiden name, well i am pretty sure this is right
kelly

Births Mar 1915 (99%)
King Thomas H Waller Camberwell 1d 1776

Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
KING William W Waller Camberwell 1d 1785

Poor Rose has been mistranscribed as Ross original is Rose
Name: Ross E King
Mother's Maiden Surname: Waller
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1917
Registration district: Camberwell
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 1429 (click t


Name: Esther E King
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Year of Registration: 1919
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 28
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 854 (click to see others


Kelly you have to forget the name Heather , it is a mistake on one of the census, like all the other spelling mistakes it is leading you in the wrong direction, She is Hester /Esther on every other record.

For what its worth I would go for Lauras birth cert remember to spell it exactly as I have given it to you and dont put any parent details on the request.

Oh guess what ? Hold your horses !
Theres a tree on ancestry belonging to Andrew Fribbens and he has Esther Moulder as wife.

HENRY FRIBENS
1840-1911
ESTHER MOULDER......... no parents for esther
1841-1913


CHARLES FRIBANS
1816-
ANN COX
1817-

JAMES FRIBANCE
1791-1869
JANE MIDDLETON
1782-

THOMAS FREEBANS
1749-
ELIZABETH HOOPER
1753-



And because its in the public domain

John Fribbens 1885 son of Henry and Esther
married Emma Vickery 1885-1971

Marriages Mar 1908 (>99%)
FRIBBENS John Edward Camberwell 1d 952
Fri_dens John Edward Camberwell 1d 952
VICKERY Emma Elizabeth Camberwell 1d 952

2 children Rose 1910
Vernon Fribbens 1923

Vernon married Betty May Packard 1929-2002 d Dorset
and there are 2 living Fribbens children

That could be who's been submitting corrections and postems to FreeBMD.

I hate people who submit corrections and postems (and at Ancestry) and don't explain their connection, and don't give any way of contacting them!!

I do love being right, though. ;)

you only need one name for certificate if u have the volume number and page number ur there then order certificate

I'd hold onto your pennies and take it that Andrew's details are right. maybe try to contact him first as he has logged on within the last month.and concentrate on trying to find Esthers parents.

Andrews connection is John brother of Elizabeth F so that makes you cousins, well sort of !

Yes Evie you are right as per !

HENRY FRIBENS
Birth: 1840
Devizes Wiltshire England
Death: 1911
Camberwell, London, England
Save this person to your tree

Military Memorial
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Timeline1840
Birth Birth

Devizes Wiltshire England
1841
Age: 1 Residence

Burbage, Wiltshire, England
1851
Age: 11 Residence

Burbage, Wiltshire, England
1881
Age: 41 Residence

Camberwell, London, England
1901
Age: 61 Residence

Camberwell, London, England
1911
Age: 71 Death

Camberwell, London, England


Name First & Middle names
Surname


Gender Male Female Unknown

Birth Date
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CHARLES FRIBANS
1816 – ANN COX
1817 –
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ESTHER MOULDER
1841 – 1913
JOHN EDWARD FRIBBENS
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AND if you put Fribbens Camberwell into search trees at the top of the page both andrew and Lisa have your relatives .

maybe ??????
Name: Ann Esther Minser
[Ann Esther Moulder]
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Saint Luke, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Luke Old Street
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: St Luke
Sub registration district: City Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 235
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Moulder 52
Susannah Moulder 25
Joseph Moulder 22
James Manton 26
Mary Ann Wilcox 20
Harry Thomas Orme 30
Ann Esther Minser 13 >>>>moulder


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source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1521; Folio: 467; Page: 44; GSU roll: 87855.

There is the easy way, as I posted much earlier:

Births Mar 1844
MOULDER Esther
Brentford
vol 3 page 4

and

Marriages Jun 1865
Moulder Esther Uxbridge 3a 39
Tribbance Henry Charles Uxbridge 3a 39

The correction notes at Ancestry for MINSER in 1851 -- the name in square brackets on the individual record indicates there has been a correction, and it is *always* a good idea to see what it says.


Corrections for Ann Esther Minser - 1851 England Census
Surname: MOULDER
Correction Type: Transcription Error
Explanation: Clearly daughter of Elizabeth Moulder, head of household and a widow. Ann died unmarried in 1909. Ancestor of a close friend of mine.
Contributed By: pamelahilary
Contributed On: 11/03/2006


This isn't our Esther. This is Ann Esther Moulder in 1841 in St Luke:

Elizabeth Moulder 40
Susanah Moulder 15
Charlotte Moulder 14
Joseph Moulder 12
James Moulder 8
> Ann Moulder 5


Our Esther was Esther, not Ann Esther.

And per the birth record that I have no doubt is her, born 1844.


Rose has her, in 1851 in Norwood:

George Moulder 30
Elizth Jane Moulder 27
Hester Moulder 7
Emma Moulder 5
James Thos Moulder 2