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Ellen Denham born 29.11.1890 St. Pancras London

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Hazel

Hazel Report 2 Aug 2009 14:03

Trying to trace my Grandmothers twin sister Ellen Denham. My Grandmother's name was Florence Harriet Denham - she married a Tillcock. Ellen (Mary) does not seem to appear on census. However, I have found an Ellen Denham travelling to Canada on the Passenger records - FINDMYPAST - SS Corsican - ALSO an Ellen Denham travelled to Wellington New Zealand l913 I am now inclined to think it may be the latter.

If you are interested in my tree please contact me through GR..

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 2 Aug 2009 14:09

Do you mean she doesn't appear on 1911?

Ozi.

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 2 Aug 2009 14:15

It seems that maybe six other members have her in their tree. Have you tried to contact any of them?

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 4 Aug 2009 10:35

Just an update,

Hazel sent me a PM to say that she has made contact with another member searching the same line but could not find Ellen on the 1911.

Choccy

Choccy Report 4 Aug 2009 10:45

what about this?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Ellen Denham
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 24
District: Mere
County: Dorset, Somerset, Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 262


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Jan 2013 09:52

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: CAMPBELL, Archibald
Address: 113 Farringdon Bldg Clerkenwell

CAMPBELL, Archibald Head Married M 50 1861 Refreshment Caterer Porter Clerkenwell VIEW
CAMPBELL, Mary Wife Married14 years F 49 1862 Office Cleaner Clerkenwell VIEW
CAMPBELL, Eva Daughter Single F 19 1892 Fancy Card Maker Clerkenwell VIEW
CAMPBELL, Tilly Daughter Single F 19 1892 Fanc Bow Maker Cardboard Clerkenwell VIEW
CAMPBELL, John Son M 8 1903 School Clerkenwell VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 1236
Reference: RG14PN1236 RG78PN42 RD14 SD2 ED21 SN239
Registration District: Holborn
Sub District: Clerkenwell
Enumeration District: 21
Parish: St James and St John Clerkenwell
Address: 113 Farringdon Bldg Clerkenwell
County: London


The 1911 states Archibald and Mary had been married for 14 years....and yet first wife Sarah appears with him in 1901 census...



1901 England Census
about Tilly Campbell
Name: Tilly Campbell
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Archibald Campbell
Mother's Name: Sarah Campbell
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Clerkenwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Redeemer
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: Amwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 109
Piece: 253
Folio: 202
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Archibald Campbell 39
Sarah Campbell 38
George Campbell 19
Bertie Campbell 15
Tilly Campbell 10
Eva Campbell 10


Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 24 Jan 2013 10:45

Deaths Sep 1909 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------------------
CAMPBELL Sarah Ann 46 Islington 1b 92

(if above is Sarah, Burial on below link, also a Henry Archibald 1932)


Deaths Dec 1932 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------
Campbell Henry A 71 Shoreditch 1c 55


https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch


Chris :)


Marriages Sep 1899 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------------------
Campbell Henry Archibald Holborn 1b 1445
Denham Sarah Ann Holborn 1b 1445


Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 24 Jan 2013 11:10

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Ellen Mary Denham
Year: 1964
County or Borough: Shoreditch and Finsbury
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington
Street Address: 84 Georgina
Reference Number: LCC/PER/B/2956
(84, Northampton Buildings)

Name: Ellen Mary Denham
Year: 1962
County or Borough: Shoreditch
Ward or Division/Constituency: Shoreditch and Finsbury
Street Address: 84 Myddelton Street
Reference Number: LCC/PER/B/2870
(84, Northampton Buildings)

Name: Ellen Mary Denham
Year: 1937
County or Borough: Camden
Ward or Division/Constituency: St Pancras
Street Address: 7 CHtTRSTON MANSIONS
(7, Coley Street, late Wilson Street)

Chris :)


Name: Ellen Mary Denham
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 24 Jan 1891 (born 29th Nov.1890)
Father's Name: George Denham (Waiter)
Mother's Name: Sarah Denham
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras St Bartholomew
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers
(also Florence Harriet, address as, 111, Guilford Street)

Hazel

Hazel Report 24 Jan 2013 19:24

Thank you for all your input.
I am looking for Ellen Mary Denham born to Sarah and George after 1911 -
She is my grandmothers sister and for as long as I can remember she was called Eva and I never new why. This all became clear last week when when I realised that George died very young and Sarah married again. Also found school records of an Archibald taking the twins to school and they were names Eva and Matilda. Henry Archibald Campbell was Sarah's new husband. Later when Sarah died and Henry Archibald Campbell remarried to a Mary they are 1911 census with Eva and Tilly aged 19. It is after this that I am interested in so thank you for your suggestions especially the ER

I saw a message left on Rootschat by a Mat who seems to have a link called Matildakin. As far as I know I have never left a message on Rootschat can anybody help me here. As I am puzzled my the message I have seen.

Also found from an elderly aunt that the twins did not get on - very unusual for twins.

Man y thanks Hazel.

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 24 Jan 2013 19:53


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Ellen Denham
Name: Ellen Denham
Birth Date: Nov 1890
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1979
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 13
Page: 0460

Hazel

Hazel Report 29 Jan 2013 14:51

Struggling to find the death of Sarah Ann Campbell nee Denham. Her husband George Denham died 1896 when the twins were very young. In 1899 she re-married to a Henry Archibald Campbell they then had a son John born 1903;

In the l911 census Henry Archibald Campbell is recorded with a Mary (no surname given) The twins Tilly and Eva now 19 (their birth names were Ellen Mary and Florence Harriet). So somewhere between 1903 and 1911 Sarah dies.
I have ordered one Death Cert for Sarah which was wrong.

Florence was my Grandmother and the interesting thing is that my grandmother was always known as Eva and have only just found out. where is started. Ellen was changed to Matilda on school records and later this was altered to Tilly. I think it started when Sarah met Henry.

Any Ideas. Thanks Hazel.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Jan 2013 16:15

Is that not Sarah Ann Death posted above, 1909?...

Chris :)

Hazel

Hazel Report 31 Jan 2013 07:27

I do search on deceased online.
I sent for the certificate above Islington and it was the wrong one. Islngton Infirmary - address 13 Charles Street Islington.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 31 Jan 2013 07:48

Deaths Jun 1901 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------------
Campbell Sarah 66 Islington 1b 141

Deaths Mar 1902 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------
Campbell Sarah 45 Shoreditch 1c 72

Deaths Sep 1906 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------
CAMPBELL Sarah 72 Holborn 1b 340

Deaths Mar 1909 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------
CAMPBELL Sarah Ann 72 Brentford 3a 115


(only seeing others above)

Chris :)

(looking at 1891, 1901, below seems to be her Birth, Thomas as Father, on Marriage, ties in with 1871)

Births Jun 1862 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------
CAMPKIN Sarah Ann Hatfield 3a 273


(then looking at 13, Charles Street, a different Henry Campbell and Sarah!)

Strange, lol.

Hazel

Hazel Report 4 Feb 2013 09:55

Thanks for your time and help.
Sarah Ann Campkin was born in Lemsford Hertfordshire - father Thomas as you say..

I have Marriage Cert. for Sarah and George Denham 1884 - 5 children inc. twins.

Have Death Cert. for George 1896 - Sarah is on the cert.

Also have Marriage Cert for second marriage to Henry Archibald Campbell 1899
Another child with Henry - John Campbell b. 1903 - I have the GRO for him in Holborn.

By deduction we thought Sarah's death would be between 1903 and 1911 as he has a Mary as "wife" although we haven't found a marriage for them so far.

Islington is out I will check out Shoreditch and Holborn.in case I have missed something.

The 1911 census has been written over and Mary has no maiden name.

My cousin and I are beginning to think there might be something odd with this marriage and the census - hope we are wrong.

Even started looking for Sarah's death after1911.



Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 4 Feb 2013 11:08

Name: John Archibald Campbell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 25 Jun 1903 (Born 9th June)
Father's Name: Archibald Campbell (Caterer)
Mother's Name: Sarah Campbell
Parish or Poor Law Union: Clerkenwell St James
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers
(address, 113, Farringdon Rd. Buildings)

Chris :)

Deaths Dec 1932 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------
Campbell Henry A 71 Shoreditch 1c 55

(any clue from above Cert.?, informant perhaps)



Hazel

Hazel Report 4 Feb 2013 23:11

Thanks I will check this out. Hazel.

Hazel

Hazel Report 4 Feb 2013 23:33

I have the cemetery record (deceased online) and informants are not mentioned here. but as I said I will check the certificate. Many thanks. Hazel.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Feb 2013 23:45

Who on earth has reported a post that is over three years old? (See Ozibird's from 2009 above)

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 7 Feb 2013 02:57

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