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Archibald and John McIndoe information please

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christina mary (jane)

christina mary (jane) Report 29 Sep 2013 18:19

Re original Question.Dorothy Rhoda Mary Organ nee Chadwick. I now know she had a child with Donald Hicks Organ on 17th May 1941. John Howard Organ.
Cannot find any more information about him since his birth!
Would be grateful for any information.

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 21 Aug 2013 21:23

I'm afraid that I think this is a hopeless task, then.
Only possibility is to find the descendants you mention, but even they may well not know anything which goes back so many years.

christina mary (jane)

christina mary (jane) Report 21 Aug 2013 18:43

No I don't

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 20 Aug 2013 20:52

So do you know her original name at all? Either Christian name or original surname???

christina mary (jane)

christina mary (jane) Report 20 Aug 2013 18:27

Thanks BeverteyW. We have tried that route!
As she was adopted by Fred and Emma Chadwick they may have given her those names. Her birth names will be the ones in Freebmd,as are mine! If anyone tried to find me, using my names given by my adopive parents they won't find me.
With Dorothy we also have the added problem that adoptions weren't recorded prior to 1927!
Fred and Emma had two sons, so it's their descendants who may know something!
I wonder is Amy (original post in 2009) a descendant?

christina mary (jane)

christina mary (jane) Report 20 Aug 2013 18:27

Thanks BeverteyW. We have tried that route!
As she was adopted by Fred and Emma Chadwick they may have given her those names. Her birth names will be the ones in Freebmd,as are mine! If anyone tried to find me, using my names given by my adopive parents they won't find me.
With Dorothy we also have the added problem that adoptions weren't recorded prior to 1927!
Fred and Emma had two sons, so it's their descendants who may know something!
I wonder is Amy (original post in 2009) a descendant?

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 19 Aug 2013 21:10

Freebmd has no entry for anyone at all with Christian names Dorothy Rhoda Mary between 1910 and 1920.

christina mary (jane)

christina mary (jane) Report 19 Aug 2013 19:46

Thanks all for interest.DRM/Chadwick/Organ/Parfitt died Nov.1983 in London. I have the certificate! Person who registered the death did not know her very well. Error on DOB, didn't know husbands first name etc.!
It's DOB, original name, and why adopted are the questions I need answered.
Don't know why Amy in 2009 stated mother Mabel Hill, or the Archibald Mcindoe connection (NZ). Amy seems to be the only one who can tell us.

christina mary (jane)

christina mary (jane) Report 13 Aug 2013 18:48

Many thanks to all. McIndoe connection in NZ.???
I have the following RELIABLE info re Dorothy Rhoda Mary Organ:(Certificates etc
Trained as nurse 1936-1939. Family home Wrexham. ? when moved from M/Chester.
Married Donald Hicks Organ 4/7/40 age 24?!Donald divorced Dorothy.
Dorothy had daughter 1946! Donald not father.Baby adopted!
Married Leonard Parfitt 1958. Age then 39 but does not correspond with age at 1st marriage!Fred Chadwick (deceased)named as father.
Dorothy died 1983 in London.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 13 Aug 2013 14:20

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/records_office/thread/1193613

How old WAS she?????


Maureen

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 13 Aug 2013 13:56

Just out of interest:

Marriages Jun 1958
PARFITT Leonard C. CHADWICK Hove 5h 526
#COMMENT Entry reads CHADWICK or ORGAN for Spouse's surname

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 13 Aug 2013 13:54

Although Leonard C. Parfitt stayed in Hove and seems to have been much older

Deaths Mar 1961 (>99%)
PARFITT Leonard C 58 Hove 5h 579

I'm almost beginning to wonder if there are two different women involved here......

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 13 Aug 2013 13:50

Could this be her death?
Age ties in

Deaths Sep 1968 (>99%)

PARFITT DOROTHY M 73 BRISTOL 7B 5

Mike *

Mike * Report 12 Aug 2013 23:03


Fred Chadwick
Birth Year:abt 1874
Age:27
Marriage Date:24 Dec 1901
Parish:Higher Openshaw, St Clement
Parish as it Appears:Higher Openshaw, St Clement
Father's Name:Richard Chadwick
Spouse's Name:Emma Burke
Spouse's Father's Name:James Burke

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 12 Aug 2013 22:53

It would be nice to know how Amy, the original poster, knew about the mother's name, Mabel Hill. Also that Dorothy was a sister to Archibald McIndoe.

Mike *

Mike * Report 12 Aug 2013 22:43

so this must be her 2nd marriage

Marriages Jun 1958

CHADWICK Dorothy R M- PARFITT Hove 5h 526
--ORGAN Dorothy R M- PARFITT Hove 5h 526
-PARFITT Leonard C -CHADWICK -Hove 5h 526
-PARFITT Leonard C - ORGAN - Hove 5h 526


How old was she when she died and does it tie in with her age on marriage certs ?

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 12 Aug 2013 22:17

She does, in passing.
At 18.19 Mike posted Dorothy R M Chadwick's marriage to Donald Organ, and Christine replied 'thanks, I already had that',

But where does this fit in with McIndoe and Mabel Hill????

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 12 Aug 2013 21:39

Nor me.

The only famous Archibald and John McIndoe I can find were born in New Zealand.

Although there is an Archibald McIndoe that fits in around that time:
Births Mar 1894 McIndoe Archibald Alexander Toxteth Park 8b 181

1901 England Census
Name: Archibald A McIndoe
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Archibald McIndoe
Mother's Name: Hannah McIndoe
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Registration District: Toxteth Park
Sub-registration District: Toxteth Park
Piece: 3437
Folio: 11
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Archibald McIndoe 38
Hannah McIndoe 39
Lillie E McIndoe 16
Frandk McIndoe 10
Archibald A McIndoe 7
James H McIndoe 10 Months

But this seems to be the parents:
Marriages Dec 1882
McIndoe Archibald Birkenhead 8a 729
PRITCHARD Hannah Birkenhead 8a 729

So I can't see where the Chadwicks fit in although Christina Mary (Jane) doesn't mention them.

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 12 Aug 2013 21:08

Deaths Jun 1904

CHADWICK Joseph 37 Chorlton 8c 484

So when did they move to Wrexham?
I presume it must be the same family as the 2009 post since the lady's name is pretty unique.
The original 2009 post doesn't make much sense to me, however.... :-S

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 12 Aug 2013 20:35

Is this 2013 request anything to do with the original 2009 request involving the McIndoe relatives?