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Derek

Derek Report 8 Jun 2010 22:54

Hello Marion..I have the Youlgreave Parish records..but the baptisms only go to 1860...........and we have a curious thing here becasue i have a long list of the children of Matthew Frost and jane Rowland.....and can't believe they were still producing in 1860!!..which would be 44 years after they were married.....the list is i9ncredible enough..but does not include HENRY.....Here's the confirmed offspring of Matthew and Jane Rowland..marrieed04.01.1816

Hannah 17.11.1816
Matthew 20.09.1818..died young
Matthew 04.02.1821
Jane 12.01.1823
George 13.03.1825
Isaac 29.04.1827
Mary Ann 06.12.1829
Harriet 27.11.1831
James 02.03.1834
Eli 18.06.1837
Michael 24.11.1839

Henry appears to have been born c1858......very unlikely to be the son of Matthew and Jane!!

any thoughts/? I have marriages and children of some of these people......

Derek

Derek

Derek Report 8 Jun 2010 23:33

Hi again Marion.further to my message below...one of the reasons that i do well on here is that I don't do anomalies or inaccuracies......so i delved further..and gues what!..Henry Frost was NOT the son of Matthew and jane..how could he be....But he WAS the son of ELI FROST and MARIA nee Evans,.born 1858 Youlgreave.....Eli you will see below..therefore Henry was the Grandson of Matthew and Jane....
Eli married Maria Evans at bakewell in 1858.and I have a history for Maria going back to before 1774....all at Youlgreave.

She was the daughter of SAMUEL EVANS and SARAH nee COOK....and one of eight children......

I don't have confirmation of the marriage of Henry Frost..but I do know he married Rebecca as tess has told you..and the history therefrom is all on the Census .....

can give you much more if you want it.
EDIT 23.50.Have now got the full history for Rebecca Ann Gibbs one of five children of Robert and Fanny nee Peach married at Ripley 25.12.1855..some of the Gibbs ended up in Australia..
Derek.

Derek

Derek Report 8 Jun 2010 23:36

Hi Tess..thanks for oyur message.and your input for Marion's enquiry..bring on the Woodhouse's !!!!!
Derek.

wisechild

wisechild Report 9 Jun 2010 07:43

Hi Derek & Tess.
Thank you both so much for all the info.
Had looked on Freebmd Tess, but couldn´t find it, probably because I never thought of Derby.
Derek, think I got a bit carried away when I put the request up. I did know that Henry was Eli´s son,but still wanted the marriage, more to find out Rebecca´s maiden name than anything.
It´s a bit of an odd story because they are related & they are not . Henry & Rebecca´s daughter Ethel married my grandmother´s brother. My grandmother was engaged to Ethel´s brother Harold, but he was killed in 1918 & she went on to marry my grandfather, causing a huge family rift & she & her brother never spoke again until after my grandfather died some 35 years later.
Families eh!!!
Thanks again.
Marion

Mark

Mark Report 9 Jun 2010 22:07

Hi Derek,

Any progress on the Marsh family of Scarcliff and Langwith?

Cheers
Mark

Derek

Derek Report 10 Jun 2010 13:24

Hello Mark...sorry to keep you waiting....and I'm not going to Matlock records Office till week beginning 21st June, when i have a week off work...However..the Scarcliffe results are as follows.......loads of marsh families, but have picked out yours:

Will do this in bits.starting with WILLIAM and AMELIA (Amy) Their children..

Joseph 24.01.1792
John 21.09.1794
Sarah 29.11.1796 buried 24.03.1799
James 25.12.1798
George 23.02.1801..buried 30.11.1802
Mary 20.08.1803
Sarah 08.02.1804 buried 14.02.1814
SAMUEL 25.02.1805 (UpperLangwith) christened 17.03.1805
Benjamin 23.03.1807
Ann 11.08.1811

SAMUEL MARSH 25.02.1805 -22.01.1886 (notts) married SARAH WOOD
(b.01.03.1810 Gamston notts d. 1876 Langwith)..and they had Jane 1843 and

HENRY 10.06.1847 (died 12.04.1921 at Langwith) who married GRACE CARSON 09.12.1873 at Whitwell

Grace born 14.11.1853 died 04.04.1942 at 124 Kilton Road Worksop.

Her parents were John Franklin Carson 1815-1871 of Mansfield and Sarah....



Back to SAMUEL and SARAH.

In 1841 they have William Adam and george
1851 JANE 1844 and henry 1847
1871 (Whitwell) Mary 1854 and William 1863
1881 Samuel now a widower id living with his son Henry at Whitwell
1891 Jane Marsh (Widow!!) living with WILLIAM 1863 at Acton in London.

More later.

Derek

Derek

Derek Report 10 Jun 2010 13:43

Mark..further to my message below.........HENRY and GRACE MARSH....married 09.11.1873 at Whitwell.......children:

Sarah Ellen 1875 -01.04.1901
Eliza 1877-1912 (died Sheffield)
Frederick. 1880...
Harriet 1883-1967 died 09.02.1967 Chesterfield
William 1887-01.06.1962 (Worksop)
Samuel b (Worksop) 1889
Grace 1891 -22.01.1980 married Arthur Gabbitas 1912
George 1897--died 29.05.1982will search both Upper langwith and Whitwell records week after next.to give exact dates.

Derek.

Mark

Mark Report 10 Jun 2010 15:15

Derek,

Many thanks for this information will look it later tonight, but it appears to be most useful!

Once agian many thanks for your time and research.

Regards
Mark

Derek

Derek Report 10 Jun 2010 23:59

Hi Sandra.according to your new information on Pm we may finally have got the FARNSWORTH family into some sort of shape..bearing in mind my speciality is derbyshire not Notts..this is not bad:_

1851..WILLIAM FARNSWORTH (1795 Trowell Notts) and ELIZABETH (1801 Cossall Notts) are living at 55 The Moor Trowell with the following children:

Ruth 1839
John 15.04.1840
Thomas 15.11.1841
William 1844
Mary 1846
GEORGE 1847
James 1848

William is a Cordwainer employing three men.

1861 still living on Trowell Moor John and geroge are now working for their father as Cordawiners.
William's sister Elizabeth aged 61 is living with them.

1871....GEORGE 1847 is married to Mary (from mansfield) at 14 Trowell Moor..he is a Cordwainer and as yet they have no children..he employs two men..Incidentally William and Elizabeth now retired are living at 9 Trowell Moor

1881....at 15 Trowell Moor George and mary have the following children:

Elizabeth 1872
William 1874
Mary 1875
George 1877...dies young.....
Ruth 1878
Arthur 1880

1891..you know about..but they live at 21 Freeman's terrace Carlton..

and 1901 they have a double shop front 8-10 Freeman's Terrace.and Annie 1884 GEORGE 1890 and Florence 1886 are with them.

In 1911 they are at 4 Willow road Carlton with their three remaining children:
Arthur 1881 Plate Layer
Florence 1886 Assistant teacher
GEORGE 1890..down the pit.

Wow!

Derek.

Derek

Derek Report 11 Jun 2010 00:10

Sandra..further to my message below.....you might like to know that Freeman's terrace..part of Freeman's road (NG4 3BE) still exists but 8 and 10 are now modern housing........4 Willow Road...the very next street still exists and is currently on the market for £99,168.00........!!!

Derek.

Sandra

Sandra Report 11 Jun 2010 08:40

derek thanks for your information it is very informative there is just one more thing i was told that my fathers granddad and grandmother never married that came from my fathers sister margaret the only one still alive in my fathers family she told me she left him and went to the u.s.a !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dont know how true this is is there any way i can find out and also are the family on the 1841census i looked on the census but could not read it very well i would be very greatfull if you could find any thing else about the family i do thank you very much
sandra

Derek

Derek Report 11 Jun 2010 12:00

Hello Sandra..although I haven't found their marraige yet..it is unlikely that with all the children they had, they didn't at some stage get married...

..and as for splitting up an going to America..you may have noticed that i told you they were living three doors away from their son George and grandchildren in 1871.......when he was about 76!!...and she was 70.....so i think you can discount that rumour!!

Derek.

Kay

Kay Report 11 Jun 2010 13:50

Hi
Do you have any info on the Trykets/Tricketts of Norton-Unstone-Wingermouth-Dronfield-Castleton. Also William Triket i think built the Trickett Gate House in Castleton. Would you have any info of that

Kay Vernon

Derek

Derek Report 11 Jun 2010 20:42

Hi Kay.some idea of dates would help us both......
If its the Trickett Gate house at Moorbridge at Castleton.its up for sale!!!!..If you want to see it.Google Trickett House.there's a picture of it.....

Derek.

Alison

Alison Report 14 Jun 2010 15:34

Hi Derek
No luck on the Watsons I take it (see message from 06/06/10). Would be grateful if you could keep a weather eye on things.
Many thanks for everything you have done and continue to do to help all the people you do.

Derek

Derek Report 14 Jun 2010 18:03

Hi Michele....re the James trevis Baptism.....am going to Matlock Records Office next week, and hopefully will find it for you..problem is........

ROBERT and MILDRED married c.1861 (probably in Wales!!)

moved around a lot...he came from Worcestershire and ahe from Radnor Wales.........they had five children..the first in Yardley Worcs..the next two in Aston Birmingham and the last two including James in Newbold Chesterfield..............now that is according to the 1881 Census.

1891 Census shows the childre all being baptised in Birmingham!! that is the three that are left..including James.......

I'll let you know next week.

Derek.

Derek

Derek Report 14 Jun 2010 18:04

Hi Alison..I'm still looking...Derek.

Kay

Kay Report 14 Jun 2010 20:11

Hi Derek

Sorry couldn't remember memory like a sieve. Info as follows
William Tryket 1425Castleton
Roger Trickett 1480
William 1500
William 1588
Jane 1591
Andrew 1604 i have dob,marriages and deaths is there any other info like wills, court etc
Thanks have seen T Gate House on Google. Could you reply to my email [email protected]
Kay

Kay

Kay Report 14 Jun 2010 20:48

Hi
do you have a George Trickett born 19 Jan (not sure what year 1661/1664 in Dronfield
thanks Kay

Derek

Derek Report 14 Jun 2010 22:30

Kay..delete the entry that includes your email...not allowed on here..and is potentially dangerous to you..I have recorded it.

Derek