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Hello all,

I am pieceing together the life of a relation of mine, and it is a little confusing. If I add my findings here can others check to see if I am on the right lines or whether I am being mistaken?

Christiana Pattison was born in 1868 in Stokesley, Yorkshire the daughter of James and Hannah Pattison. She is living with her family in 1881:

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
James PATTINSON Head M Male 40 York, England Tinner
Hannah PATTINSON Wife M Female 39 Stockton On Tees
Edward STEPHENSON Uncle W Male 66 Brafferton, Durham, England Hawker
Isaac PATTINSON Son Male 17 Stockton
Christiana PATTINSON Daur Female 15 Guisbro, York, England
Mary Ann PATTINSON Daur Female 13 Stokesley, York, England
Isabella PATTINSON Daur Female 9 Redcar, York, England Scholar
Annie PATTINSON Niece Female 12 Hartlepool, Durham, England Scholar
Margaret PATTINSON Daur Female 7 Redcar, York, England Scholar
Edward PATTINSON Son Male 4 Redcar, York, England Scholar
Lavinia PATTINSON Daur Female 3 Redcar, York, England Scholar
Hanibal PATTINSON Son Male 1 Redcar, York, England

Source Information:
Dwelling 63 Red Lion St
Census Place Redcar, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342166
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4841 / 74
Page Number 58

She was married in September 1881 to James Sorrell, and the couple seemed to have settled in Redcar, North Yorkshire, and had at least three children (1891 Census, 1 Albert Place, Redcar, Yorkshire). These children were:

1 - Thomas Sorrell - b 1885
2 - Alfus Sorrell - b 1888
3 - John W. Sorrell - 1890

Here in 1891 her birthplace is recorded as Stokesley, North Yorkshire. James Sorrell was working as an employed joiner. I cannot find a death for James, but it seems that Christiana married under her married name of Sorrell to Thomas Stephenson in 1894; she was recorded as a widow, although strangely her father was not recorded on the marriage certificate. No father was mentioned at all.

In 1901 she and her husband Thomas Stephenson (a plater helper) and two daughters are living in St. Hilda`s, Middlesbrough, Yorkshire and although the document states she was a year older than she actually was, it also records herself as being born in Redcar, Yorkshire.

Her two daughters are:

Margaret Stephenson, b 1895
Seliana Stephenson, b 1900

Both girls were born in Middlesbrough.

I can see no sign of Christiana in the 1911 although the only suitable death I can find in for 1923 in Thirsk.

Can anyone see Christiana in the 1911? Also, do my findings seem correct? Something just doesn't seem right to me with this; for example, why can I not find a death for James Sorrell, and why are her young boys (Sorrell) not living with her and Thomas Stephenson in 1901. I've not even found the boys in 1901. Also, when Christiana and Thomas Stephenson married, why did she not mention her father James Pattison?

I'd be glad of any help!

Thank you!

I'll take a slow look, but my immediate thought is have you got the correct 1st marriage?

Was she really that young ?

Do you have her father recorded on a marriage that you KNOW to be correct?

Gwyn

One of the boys in 1901? Coatham is very near Redcar.


1901 census transcription details for: 10, Tod Point Road, Coatham
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 4570 Folio: 131 Page: 41

Reg. District: Guisbrough Sub District: Marske
Parish: Coatham Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: Christ Church City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 10, Tod Point Road, Coatham
County: Yorkshire (North riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
SORRELL, Thos Head Married M 72 1829 Furnace Laborer
Bennison
Yorkshire
SORRELL, Sophia Wife Married F 70 1831
D K
Co Not Std
Eng
SORRELL, Thomas Nephew Single M 16 1885 Furnace Laborer
Coatham
Yorkshire
HUGHES, Fredk Boarder Single M 38 1863 Furnace Laborer
Ireland


Another at school.


1901 census transcription details for: Sir W Turners Hospital, Kirkleatham, Kirkleatham
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 4569 Folio: 70 Page: 15

Reg. District: Guisbrough Sub District: Marske
Parish: Kirkleatham Enum. District: 4
Ecclesiastical District: St Cuthberts City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Sir W Turners Hospital, Kirkleatham, Kirkleatham
County: Yorkshire (North riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
BLAND, Thomas Master Married M 65 1836 Schoolmaster
Barnard Castle
Durham
BLAND, Isabella Wife Married F 62 1839
Staindrop
Durham
BLAND, Earnest E Son Single M 31 1870 Assistant Master B A Partner
Redcar
Yorkshire
BLAND, Gertrude E Daughter Single F 29 1872
Redcar
Yorkshire
IVERSEN, Henrik Boarder Single M 19 1882 Student
Norway (Foreign Subject)
ELEISON, Enar Boarder Single M 21 1880 Student
Norway (Foreign Subject)
WOOFT, Elizabeth Servant Single F 18 1883 General Servant (Domestic)
Staindrop
Durham
COCKERELL, Emily Servant Single F 18 1883 Housemaid Domestic
Skelton on Cleveland
Yorkshire
ATKINSON, Alfred Servant Single M 16 1885 General Servant Domestic
Marske
Yorkshire
PINKNEY, William Scholar M 14 1887 Attending School
Redcar
Yorkshire
WRAY, Thomas W Scholar M 13 1888 Attending School
Warringby Nr Redcar
Yorkshire
>>>SORRIL, Alfred Scholar M 13 1888 Attending School
Warringby Nr Redcar
Yorkshire
TURNER, Thomas N Scholar M 12 1889 Attending School
South Bank
Yorkshire
WALLACE, John J Scholar M 9 1892 Attending School
Warrenby Redcar
Yorkshire
ATKINSON, William Boarder Widower M 78 1823 Retired Sailor
Coatham Redcar
Yorkshire
PIERCE, William Boarder Widower M 86 1815 Retired Stableman
Richmond
Yorkshire
BELL, William Boarder Widower M 79 1822 Retired Labourer
Marton
Yorkshire
ANSELL, Walter Boarder Widower M 68 1833 Retired Butler
Swannington
Leicestershire
RUCROFT, Ruben Boarder Widower M 74 1827 Retired Butler
Reeth
Yorkshire
TENNARD, Robert Boarder Widower M 64 1837 Labourer On Roads
Lythe
Yorkshire
BENNISON, Emma Matron Single F 49 1852 Schoolmistress
Coatham Redcar
Yorkshire
KEYWORTH, Mary Scholar F 13 1888 Attending School
Darlington
Durham
CROSSLEY, Edith Scholar F 13 1888 Attending School
Redcar
Yorkshire
WALLACE, Barbara Scholar F 12 1889 Attending School
Staithes
Yorkshire
FLETCHER, William Servant Widower M 60 1841 General Servant
Peckering
Yorkshire
WALTON, Mary Tenant Widow F 61 1840 Charwoman
Thornaby
Yorkshire
WALLER, Elizabeth Tenant Single F 63 1838 Dressmaker
Acklam
Yorkshire
SYLVESTER, Mary Inmate Single F 79 1822 Retired Schoolmistress
Wath on Durn
Yorkshire
MITCHELL, Elizabeth Tenant Widow F 68 1833
Darlington
Durham
LEGGETT, Susan Inmate Widow F 78 1823
Shipdam
Norfolk
FORSYTHE, Margaret Inmate Single F 94 1807 Retired Housekeeper
Belford
Northumberland
PARKER, Maria Nurse Married F 48 1853 Hospital Nurse
Newton Le Willows
Yorkshire
PARKER, Elizabeth E Nurses Daur F 13 1888
Middleton Queanar
Yorkshire
PARKER, Edith M Nurses Daur F 10 1891
Middleton Queanar
Yorkshire
PARKER, Tom Nurses Son M 6 1895
Northallerton
Yorkshire
YARROW, Eleanor Inmate Widow F 76 1825
Pickering
Yorkshire
RUTHERFORD, Anne J Tenant Single F 37 1864 Living On Own Means
Warfdale
Yorkshire
RUTHERFORD, Mary Tenant Single F 28 1873 Living On Own Means
Kirkleatham
Yorkshire
SWINBANK, Elizabeth Servant Single F 39 1862 General Servant (Domestic)
Darlington
Durham

Name: Christiana Pattison
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Stokesley
County: Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 462

James Sorrell's Deat? Guisbro' is the registration district for Redcar. The _ usually means there's a digit missing.

Deaths Dec 1892 (>99%)
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Sorrell James 3_ Guisbro' 9d 344

Could middle son be Alfred not Alfus?

found on FreeBMD

Deaths Dec 1892 (>99%)
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Sorrell James 3_ Guisbro' 9d 344

don't know if this is your James Sorrell as the age at death is not very clear but looks like 30 something.

Sheila

Looks like 'Alfus' is 'Alfred'

Births Sep 1887 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

SORRELL Alfred Guisbro' 9d 502

Looks like the boys all joined up.


1911 census transcription details for: ,
Military details: Private Bn A G W O Yorkshire Regement
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN28383 RD517 SD1 ED5 SN9999

Reg. District: York Sub District: Skelton
Parish: Enum. District: 5
Address: Strensall York
County: Yorkshire (East riding)
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
SORREL, Thomas James Single ? 24 1887 Soldier Redcar Yorkshire





1911 census transcription details for: Canterbury Barracks 9royal Engineers And C, CANTERBURY BARRACKS (ROYAL ENGINEERS ETC)
Military details: Driver 3rd Field Troop Royal Enginners
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN4345 RD58 SD1 ED33 SN9999

Reg. District: Canterbury Sub District: Canterbury
Parish: Canterbury Enum. District: 33
Address: Sturry Road Canterbury Enumerator in T Q M S Usher
County: Kent
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
SORRELL, Alfred Single ? 24 1887 Redcar Yorkshire





1911 census transcription details for: Hyderabad Barracks, HYDERABAD BARRACKS
Military details: Lce Corporal Durham Light Infty
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN10304 RD198 SD1 ED20 SN9999

Reg. District: Colchester Sub District: Colchester South East
Parish: Colchester Enum. District: 20
Address: Military Road and Mersea Road Colchester
County: Essex
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
SARRELL, John Single ? 21 1890 Yorks Redcar

: SORRELL, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Durham Light Infantry
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Age: 26
Date of Death: 09/08/1915
Service No: 9591
Additional information: Son of the late J. Sorrell.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 36 and 38.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL


From cwgc. This is the service record for this person on ancestry. As you can see, there are 36 pages! I have looked at a few and, apart from his given place of birth, everything matches your man.

Place of birth: West Hartlepool, Durham.
Occupation: Tailor
Brothers Thomas James, 66 Archer St, Darlington
Alfred, still serving RE.
Articles of personal property were to be returned to Mrs Lily Sorrell, address as above.
Brother Thomas received his 1914 Star on 11 May 1919 as John had no widow, children or parents to pass it to.
He was a groom in 1913, a very good one by all accounts, but his charge sheet is rather full!
He was punished a lot for Improper language to Superiors, sleeping in and was Drunk in charge of a horse and carriage a couple of times.


Liz


British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
about John Sorrell
Name: John Sorrell
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Age at Enlistment: 15
Birth Parish: West Hartlepool
Birth County: Durham
Document Year: 1906
Regimental Number: 9541
Regiment Name: Durham Light Infantry
Number of Images: 36

Sadly, also from cwgc.

SORRELL, THOMAS JAMES
Initials: T J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sapper
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
Age: 42
Date of Death: 27/03/1921
Service No: WR/125512
Additional information: Husband of Lilly Sorrell, of 28, Aldam St., Darlington. Born at Redcar.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 101.
Cemetery: BYERS GREEN (ST. PETER) CHURCHYARD AND EXTENSION


Record
Francis L Furness 1911 Darlington Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
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>>Lily Greenwood 1911 Darlington Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
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Clara Mitchel 1911 Darlington Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
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Clara Mitchell 1911 Darlington Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
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>>Thomas J Sorrell 1911 Darlington Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding

Could Christiana have married again?

View Image Order Record
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Gertrude Armstrong 1907 Middlesbrough (1875-1968) Yorkshire - North Riding
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William Arthur Hall 1907 Middlesbrough (1875-1968) Yorkshire - North Riding
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Amelia Jane Heslop 1907 Middlesbrough (1875-1968) Yorkshire - North Riding
View Record
Samuel Smedley 1907 Middlesbrough (1875-1968) Yorkshire - North Riding
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Christiana Stephenson 1907 Middlesbrough (1875-1968) Yorkshire - North Riding



Date of birth is a bit out though.

Name: Thomas Stephenson
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 35
District: Middlesbrough (1875-1968)
County: Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 42_

Hello all,

Wow, thank you; I've been away from the pc for a few days but thank you for all of this wonderful info! I am staggered and really appreciate all of this help! Thank you again. I have emailed the register offices over the death of James Sorrell and Thomas Stephenson, and I am also waiting to get confirmation of whether Christiana married the man named Hall in 1907.

I'll update here with any further news!

Thank you!

Peter

Hi again,

Sorry for not replying sooner - two years late. The register office said the marriage of Christiana in 1907 was not here. So, can I ask for a look-up for her in the 1911?

Christiana Stephenson, born 1865 in Guisborough, Yorkshire.

Thanks,

Peter

The Christiana in the 1907 marriage was born in 1881. Shame.

Thank you Alviegal - the reason I didn't post before was because it was a negative responce (as you have also just discovered).

And just to check, she doesn't appear as Christiana Stephenson in 1911? Not Chistine?!

Hmmmm

linked?

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1312071

No Reggie.

Posting 1901 just as a reference.

1901 census transcription details for: 11, Nicolas Street, Middlesbrough, Middlesbro
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 4574
Folio: 144
Page: 9
Reg. District: Middlesbrough
Sub District: Middlesbrough
Parish: Middlesbrough
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: St Hilda
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 11, Nicolas Street, Middlesbrough, Middlesbro
County: Yorkshire (North riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
STEPHENSON, Thomas Head Married M 35 1866 Platers Helper
Middlesbro, Yorkshire
STEPHENSON, Christiana Wife Married F 36 1865
Redcar, Yorkshire
STEPHENSON, Margaret Daughter F 6 1895
Middlesbro, Yorkshire
STEPHENSON, Seliana Daughter F 1 1900
Middlesbro, Yorkshire

Spouse Search Results

Search marriages - results for spouse of CHRISTIANA STEPHENSON

Result Year Surname Forename Initial Ref Number Click to contact
1 1907 HALL WILLIAM A M-19-003-0-0042 Middlesbrough
2 1907 STEPHENSON CHRISTIANA M-19-003-0-0042 Middlesbrough


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