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Member Since: December 2006 Posts: 4,275 Send Message	Madmeg	Report	7 Mar 2010 22:02
	It has to be the marriage cert, Garry David. SEND FOR IT NOW! (He is used to me shouting at him by now). I am now finding various other possibilities for his birth (including him being James Herbert). Take Lindsey up on the offer of the army records. They might show something interesting.
Member Since: December 2006 Posts: 4,275 Send Message	Madmeg	Report	7 Mar 2010 22:14
	Maureen, searched for all Gertrudes in York in 1911 with a brother Herbert. No luck. Based on your idea of fostered out. Will try 1901.
Member Since: November 2009 Posts: 18 Send Message	Garry David	Report	7 Mar 2010 22:19
Member Since: November 2009 Posts: 18 Send Message	Dear Mad meg the mother in law said his nick name was jimmy but even on his birth cert on genes reunited which doesnt give much info he was called herbert watkinson Garry David
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 5,616 Send Message	MaureeninNY	Report	7 Mar 2010 22:25
	OK- We all agree. Meg is yelling. I'm starting to lose my mind and Lindsey is as certain as we are. Buy a certificate. Maureen P.S. You're just doing this because you like us.
Member Since: November 2009 Posts: 18 Send Message	Garry David	Report	7 Mar 2010 22:27
Member Since: November 2009 Posts: 18 Send Message	Dear Lindsey i deserved that comment with the way i have been mucking every body about but NO WAY is this THREAD going to be DELETED i have made some lovely Freinds who are trying there best to help me Garry David
Member Since: December 2006 Posts: 4,275 Send Message	Madmeg	Report	7 Mar 2010 22:29
	Get the marriage cert Garry David, we can't get any further without it. Order it from the York Register Office rather than the GRO - they will be much more helpful if there's anything not quite right. Superintendent Registrar, York Register Office, 56 Bootham, York, YO30 7DA. You can print the form off from this website: http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/certapp.php?type=births&data=WATKINSON%7cHerbert%7cWalmgate%7cYork%7c1892%7c1892%7c%7cYK%3aWAL%2f93%2f96%7cW%7c34215%7cyorkshire%7cYK%7c&lang= Don't forget to include a stamped addressed envelope. Sadly they don't do online orders as some do. They'll be just as quick, if not quicker that the GRO. Once you've got it you can maybe ring them up and ask about other siblings without having to pay. I'm good at subterfuge. Margaret
Member Since: November 2009 Posts: 18 Send Message	Garry David	Report	7 Mar 2010 22:34
Member Since: November 2009 Posts: 18 Send Message	Dear Maureen ny i do like you all and i am really serious about finding herberts parents so my best bet would be to get in touch with the BORTHWICK INSTITUTE at york uni and buy a birth cert that WOULD have his parents on wouldnt it Garry david
Member Since: November 2009 Posts: 18 Send Message	Garry David	Report	7 Mar 2010 22:46
Member Since: November 2009 Posts: 18 Send Message	Dear Mad Meg Thanks for the info i am going to get his birth cert Garry David
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 62 Send Message	Michelle	Report	7 Mar 2010 22:58
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 62 Send Message	Hi Just done a quick search on the 1911 census ans the ONLY Herbert Watkinson born in 1892 is in the Rotherham district. But, if you +/- it by a year you get another in Hull, county Yorkshire East Riding (with York) Could either of these be the one?
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 5,616 Send Message	MaureeninNY	Report	7 Mar 2010 23:04
	Thank you, Garry David!!! It may not show a father,but at least we'll know who the mother is. My best regards, Maureen
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 13,276 Send Message	Lindsey*	Report	7 Mar 2010 23:16
	please feel free to share the contents when it arrives as we all want to know now !
	Researching: For better results please give all the details ,name, date place as you can {pictures by me }
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 5,616 Send Message	MaureeninNY	Report	7 Mar 2010 23:22
	Ditto!! Maureen
Member Since: December 2006 Posts: 4,275 Send Message	Madmeg	Report	7 Mar 2010 23:31
	I don 't want to throw a spanner in the works, or delay anything, but Garry David has mentioned the Borthwick Institute. Surely that isn't a place to get birth or marriage certs from is it? I thought it dealt with wills and such like. I am a bit concerned at getting his birth cert when the marriage cert to Elizabeth Squirrel is more certain. The addresses I gave him were for the York Register Office, I am a big believer in using local register offices where you might have further queries. They are much more amenable to answering questions than the GRO, who don't answer any at all.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,011 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	8 Mar 2010 00:04
	having just read this, can someone clarify for me Have you found Herbert's war records? If so, has he named a next of kin? sylvia
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 5,616 Send Message	MaureeninNY	Report	8 Mar 2010 00:07
	Yes. Lindsey found them. It's his wife-Elizabeth Squir*l. Maureen
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 13,276 Send Message	Lindsey*	Report	8 Mar 2010 00:10
	Throwing spanners ...............I agree because there is more info about both of them on a marriage cert, and the birth cert may NOT be him, but Gary being Gary will do it his way ! [Delete this at your peril !]
	Researching: For better results please give all the details ,name, date place as you can {pictures by me }
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 5,616 Send Message	MaureeninNY	Report	8 Mar 2010 00:17
	Meg-Just noticed that as well. For some reason this thread has not done well on my screen. My reasoning for the birth cert is that I'm 99% certain that that is the Herbert we're looking for. His marriage cert may have a "father" listed (ahem),but I want to know the mother's details. I swear I'll buy the marriage cert if necessary. Maureen
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 62 Send Message	Michelle	Report	8 Mar 2010 00:21
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 62 Send Message	In 1911, Elizabeth Squirrell appears on the census in Middlesbrough aged 14 (1897) living with: Edward age 34 (1877) Henry age 7 (1904) Arthur Ed age 9 (1902) I realise that Garry is trying to find Herbert's parents, not Elizabeth's, but Garry has her year of birth as 1898 and the cencus is out by a year. Maybe Herbert's is the same?
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 5,616 Send Message	MaureeninNY	Report	8 Mar 2010 00:22
	PS-Would someone get that wrench out of my brussel sprouts? I'm trying to eat here!! Maureen
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,011 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	8 Mar 2010 00:25
	I was afraid that would be the case!! I agree .... marriage certificate needed
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

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