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4 Sep 2010 09:54 |
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Hi Janet.
Did Frederick NICHOLLS/NICHOLS have a middle name by chance.
Eg: Frederick William NICHOLLS or John Frederick NICHOLLS/NICHOLS
Zero results for NICKELLS/NICHELLS
Can you tell me whom his wife was ( Name ) and any childrens names.
There were 3 Frederick NICHOLLS/NICHOLS/NICKOLS transported to "Australia" on Aussie records...but none showing that they were sentenced at Norwich Assizes
Frederick Nicholls, one of 256 convicts transported on the Triton, 04 August 1842. Sentence details: Convicted at Warwick Assizes for a term of 10 years. Vessel: Triton. Date of Departure: 04 August 1842. Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land. Transported for breaking into a warehouse. Warehouse breaking from Mr. W. Dealey...Eight shillings and some silver Sentence: 10 years
Tasmanian Data base:52876 Nichols/Nickols Frederick age: 28... Arr: Aug 1835 Ship: "Norfolk".... Dept: 14 May 1835 Port: Sheerness. Native place Bridgewater: Transported for stealing money Gaol Report: Character Bad Convicted /Imprisoned before....Stealing Cheese Stealing money from Samuel Mann Native Place: Bridgewater
Frederick Nicholls, one of 277 convicts transported on the Belgravia, 04 April 1866. Sentence details: Convicted at Lancashire. General Quarter Sessions Manchester for a term of 7 years. Vessel: Belgravia. Date of Departure: 04 April 1866. Place of Arrival: Western Australia. Crime house breaking Un-Married
Two NICHOLLS sentenced at Norwich....1840s...but given names are William & John
William Nicholls, one of 299 convicts transported on the Marion, 27 September 1847. Alias(es): Lawes, William Sentence details: Convicted at Norfolk, Norwich City Quarter Sessions for a term of 10 years on 30 June 1846. Exile. Vessel: Marion.
John Nichols, one of 249 convicts transported on the Joseph Somes, 02 June 1847. Sentence details: Convicted at Norfolk, Norwich City Quarter Sessions for a term of 10 years on 17 March 1846. Exile. Vessel: Joseph Somes.
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TonyOz
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4 Sep 2010 14:43 |
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Hi Chrys.
Cant see a William COLLAR on any transportee records to Australia.
Tried COLER and COLLIER ( and there were a few William COLLIER convicts )
Found this ( below ) on the 1871 England census. Dont know if he is the right one ?....but says born... Harlow Essex.
Name: William Collar Age: 53 Estimated birth year: abt 1818 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Susan Collar Gender: Male Where born: Harlow, Essex, England Civil parish: Hagley County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Registration district: Bromsgrove Sub-registration district: Belbroughton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 12 Household Members: Name Age William Collar 53 Susan Collar 54 Tony
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Chrystine
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4 Sep 2010 18:22 |
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Hi Tony, many thanks for looking, The William you found on 1871 census was his cousin, once again many thanks Chrys.
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4 Sep 2010 20:10 |
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5 Sep 2010 11:16 |
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Hi and thanks Tony, we will investigate further and get back to you, it may well be that Frederick was his middle name...we will try to find out more
Regards Jan
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12 Sep 2010 11:47 |
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17 Sep 2010 18:22 |
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HI tony,
Hoping you can help, we have a family member George (Fred) Howard who we believe was transported in 1850/1860 for stealing corn. He originated from Wickhampton Norfolk, UK and was pardoned 2 years after his transportation, his wife and 6 children were allowed to join him and went out to W.A. under public assistance. His father was either Robert or Samuel again from the same area in Norfolk. Sorry thats all the info we have... hoping !
Cheers Jan
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Greenfingers
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17 Sep 2010 18:22 |
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HI tony,
Hoping you can help, we have a family member George (Fred) Howard who we believe was transported in 1850/1860 for stealing corn. He originated from Wickhampton Norfolk, UK and was pardoned 2 years after his transportation, his wife and 6 children were allowed to join him and went out to W.A. under public assistance. His father was either Robert or Samuel again from the same area in Norfolk. Sorry thats all the info we have... hoping !
Cheers Jan
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TonyOz
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18 Sep 2010 00:20 |
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Hi Janet.
May i ask where you got the information from, that George ( Fred ) HOWARD was transported to W.A... and that he was pardoned 2 years after arrival...ect
Can you give me his wifes name,and any of his childrens names? Without knowing these names i cant check to see if they ( 6 children ) married here, or which state they may have settled in.
Convict Transportees to Australia show 14 George HOWARD from 1819 to 1843 13 sent to N.S.W and Tasmania ( one drowned at Sea )
W.A convict data base has only 1 George HOWARD convicted in 1850.....but his status is "Unmarried"
George Howard, one of 209 convicts transported on the Mermaid, 30 December 1850.
Sentence details: Convicted at Southampton Assizes for a term of 14 years on 01 March 1849. Vessel: Mermaid. Date of Departure: 30 December 1850. Place of Arrival: Western Australia.
W.A convict data base: HOWARD, George Convict No 247 Ship Name :Mermaid Ship Arrival Date: 7 May 1851 Birth Date: 1830 Marital Status: Unmarried Occupation: mason's labourer Literacy: lit Religion: Prot Sentence Date: 1849 Sentence Place: Winchester Sentence Province: Hampshire Sentence Country: England Length of Sentence: 14yrs Crime: burglary Previous Conviction: prev conv Ticket of Leave Date 27 Sep 1852 Conditional Pardon: Date 30 Jul 1855 Known Areas: Perth, Bunbury Comments: To SA per Guyon 27 Apr 1856
One death in W.A registered on BDM index 1852 to 1930
HOWARD GEORGE Male PERTH Ref No:215 Year:1912
One death in South Australia for a George James HOWARD 1865 age 51
One death in South Australia for a George Francis HOWARD 1883 aged 62
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18 Sep 2010 09:39 |
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HI Tony and thanks.
The info we have was handed down from my father in law (now deceased) he was born in 1911 and when he was 10 his father told him the story of the transportation. So unfortunately at present we have no more information, however, the family bloodhounds are out and we intend trying to find out more. It was a long shot to send you a message, we just assumed it was WA Will come back to you
Cheers Jan
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27 Sep 2010 22:52 |
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Colleen
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28 Sep 2010 01:28 |
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Hi Tony would appreciate a look up for ....
William Bessel (Bissel,Bizzel) b.5.4.1806 Long Wittenham parents William and Elizabeth.
transported May 1839 (I believe for life) to NSW.
In 1851 his wife Elizabeth and 4 children were helped by the parish of Long Wittenham with passage to join him, children...Stephen b. 1829, Abraham b.1832, David b. 1837, Caleb b. 01841(after Dad's transportation, wink wink)
sorry Tony I just found this on Ancestry.... William Bizzle Vessel: Parkfield Convicted Date: 23 Feb 1839 Voyage Date: 13 May 1839 Colony: New South Wales Piece: HO 11/12 Place of Conviction: Berkshire, England
Can you give me any more info ??
Cheers Colleen
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TonyOz
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28 Sep 2010 03:54 |
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Hi Colleen. There will be many variations of this surname in Australia.......so can only give you what i think, but would need further investigation to confirm
William Bizzle, one of 240 convicts transported on the Parkfield, 12 May 1839. Sentence details: Convicted at Berks Assizes for a term of life on 23 February 1839. Vessel: Parkfield. Date of Departure: 12 May 1839. Place of Arrival: New South Wales.
N.S.W State archives: BIZZLE William Arr:Year 1839 Ship Parkfield: Received a TOL ( Ticket of Leave -passport ) 5th Dec 1848...Ticket of Leave No: 46/1348..... On the recommendation of Yass Bench.
BIZZLE William Ship: Parkfield 1839 No 46/1348 "Ticket of Leave" 4/4210; Reel 960 District: Yass.... Born: Berks...... Trade: Shepherd....Crime: Arson.....Tried: Bucks Assizes
Ticket of leave passport was given to Convicts as to allow them to travel to and fro, from a place of employment.
BIZZLE William - Ship: Parkfield No: 51/12 Record Type: Bank Warrant ..No: 4/4548; Reel 597
Arriving on the ship: "EMPEROR" Sydney and/or Newcastle 1851 BIZZLE Elizabeth Age: 48 and family BIZZLE Stephen 21 BIZZLE Abraham 19 BIZZLE David 13 BIZZLE Caleb 10
Nothing really showing up on Aussie ( BDM ) Index's for BIZZLE or BIZZEL Allowing for spelling variations and soundex: BIZZEL, BIRREL,BIRELL,BIRRILL,BIZZLEY, BEEZLEY, BEAZLEY.....
N.S.W Death Index shows under the spelling "BEAZLEY" ( allowing for wrong imformant info on death certs. ( ie: parents names and ages at death ) Possibles: 9236/1891 BEAZLEY ABRAHAM Fath: WILLIAM Moth: ELIZABETH District:MARSDEN 2946/1871 BEAZLEY STEPHEN Fath: WILLIAM Moth: ELIZABETH District: BINALONG 1237/1927 BEAZLEY CALEB 87 YRS District: GRENFELL 1776/1908 BEAZLEY DAVID Fath: DAVID Moth: JULIA A District: JUNEE
Many possible's ( Deaths ) for William ( convict ) and wife Elizabeth, and would need to know their parents names to narrow down a search.
N.S.W ..bdm's are on-line and may be worth checking to confirm what i have discovered.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/
Articles in early Australian colonial Newspapers are good to search also, and from the NLA ( National Library of Australia ) we find....
Surname: BIZZLE http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home
The Maitland Mercury & Hunter River General Advertiser (NSW : 1843-1893) (about) )) 1998/1863 BEAZLEY COCLEB spouse: SULLIVAN MARY ANN District: GUNDAGAI
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28 Sep 2010 04:59 |
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Hi Colleen. There will be many variations of this surname in Australia.......so can only give you what i think, but would need further investigation to confirm
William Bizzle, one of 240 convicts transported on the Parkfield, 12 May 1839. Sentence details: Convicted at Berks Assizes for a term of life on 23 February 1839. Vessel: Parkfield. Date of Departure: 12 May 1839. Place of Arrival: New South Wales.
N.S.W State archives: BIZZLE William Arr:Year 1839 Ship Parkfield: Received a TOL ( Ticket of Leave -passport ) 5th Dec 1848...Ticket of Leave No: 46/1348..... On the recommendation of Yass Bench.
BIZZLE William Ship: Parkfield 1839 No 46/1348 "Ticket of Leave" 4/4210; Reel 960 District: Yass.... Born: Berks...... Trade: Shepherd....Crime: Arson.....Tried: Bucks Assizes
Ticket of leave passport was given to Convicts as to allow them to travel to and fro, from a place of employment.
BIZZLE William - Ship: Parkfield No: 51/12 Record Type: Bank Warrant ..No: 4/4548; Reel 597
Arriving on the ship: "EMPEROR" Sydney and/or Newcastle 1851 BIZZLE Elizabeth Age: 48 and family BIZZLE Stephen 21 BIZZLE Abraham 19 BIZZLE David 13 BIZZLE Caleb 10
Nothing really showing up on Aussie ( BDM ) Index's for BIZZLE or BIZZEL Allowing for spelling variations and soundex: BIZZEL, BIRREL,BIRELL,BIRRILL,BIZZLEY, BEEZLEY, BEAZLEY.....
N.S.W Death Index shows under the spelling "BEAZLEY" ( allowing for wrong imformant info on death certs. ( ie: parents names and ages at death ) Possibles: 9236/1891 BEAZLEY ABRAHAM Fath: WILLIAM Moth: ELIZABETH District:MARSDEN 2946/1871 BEAZLEY STEPHEN Fath: WILLIAM Moth: ELIZABETH District: BINALONG 1237/1927 BEAZLEY CALEB 87 YRS District: GRENFELL 1776/1908 BEAZLEY DAVID Fath: DAVID Moth: JULIA A District: JUNEE
Many possible's ( Deaths ) for William ( convict ) and wife Elizabeth, and would need to know their parents names to narrow down a search.
N.S.W ..bdm's are on-line and may be worth checking to confirm what i have discovered.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/
Articles in early Australian colonial Newspapers are good to search also, and from the NLA ( National Library of Australia ) we find....
Surname: BIZZLE http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home
The Maitland Mercury & Hunter River General Advertiser (NSW : 1843-1893) (about) Wednesday 8 October 1851
Article:"Conditional Pardons"( among other convict names )...BIZZLE Wm; Parkfield http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/679080?searchTerm=BIZZLE
Will check further, and if i find anything more conclusive, i will add it here
Possibly marriages for two of the four children
3211/1866 BEAZLEY ABRAHAM spouse: TROTH JANE district: TUMUT 425/1869 BEAZLEY ABRAHAM spouse: BRIEN JANE district: SYDNEY 2437/1872 BEAZLEY ABRAHAM spouse: MONTGOMERY JANE district: KIAMA
This could be a very bad spelling for CALEB.....:>)) 1998/1863 BEAZLEY COCLEB spouse: SULLIVAN MARY ANN District: GUNDAGAI
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Colleen
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28 Sep 2010 09:58 |
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thanks Tony much appreciated
I am pretty sure that that is the right William going by what I have been told by researcher in long Wittenham.
William's parents were William Bessel and Elizabeth (unknown)
thanks again Colleen
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Martyn
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1 Oct 2010 23:29 |
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hi tony, thank's for your kind offer. i do not have a lot of detail's but i will let you have what detail's i have,samuel hurst born1790 in gainsborough lincolnshire england,i have him on the 1841 census but nothing after that,a contact rell's me he was transported to tasmania were he got a pardon,he died in tasmania in 1872. i am not sure if you will be able to help,but anything will be appreciated, thank's martyn
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TonyOz
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2 Oct 2010 03:26 |
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Hi Martyn.
Australian convict data show there were two Samuel HURST transported to Australia.
One in 1819 sent to N.S.W penal colony One in 1844 sent to Tasmania penal colony.
Given from what information you have told me.
Samuel Hurst, one of 270 convicts transported on the "William Jardine", 10 August 1844. Sentence details: Convicted at Nottingham, East Retford Quarter Sessions for a term of 7 years. Vessel: William Jardine. Date of Departure: 10 August 1844. Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Transported for stealing Mahogany plank and 3 Pine wood slabs from Mr. Rawlett at Gainsborough Gaol Report: 2nd Conviction Status: Married ( Wife and 5 children )
Arrival Tasmania: 35314 Hurst Samuel Date of Arr: 20 Nov 1844...Ship: "William Jardine (1)...." Date dept: 11 Aug 1844... Port of Dept: London, Eng.
Convict Report ( Tasmania Archives )
Ship Report: Good Trade: Joiner cabinet maker. Rel: Protestant Can read and write Age: 56 Height: 5ft 6in Complexion: Ruddy Head: Large Hair: Brown Whiskers: Dark Brown Visage: Broad Eyebrows: Brown Eyes: Blue Nose: Long Mouth: Medium Chin: Large Native Place: Gainsborough
Marks: Stout made....Deeply pockpitted......Mole on breast. Period of Labor: 15 months Station Gang: "Port Esperance" Tasmania 16th Dec 1844
12th Mar 1847 Sent to work for a John Fiddler of Glenorchy, Tasmania
TL ( Ticket of Leave ) 11th July 1848
Recommended for CP ( Conditional Pardon ) 30th Jan 1849 CP approved 5th Feb 1850
Given that Samuel Hurst was 56 years of age at the time of arrival in 1844 and Conditional pardoned in 1850, making him around 61 years of age, i cannot see any marriage ( 2nd marriage ) that may have taken place on Australian BDM's Convicts also needed permission to marry or re-marry, but cant find any records regarding a second marriage.
Its also possible ( on occasions )his family ( wife and children ) may have followed him out to tasmania....but i would need to know ( names ) of children and spouse to check.
Colonial Tasmania Family links detail.
Death registered in 1872 HURST, SAMUEL Gender: Male Birth 1791 - ENGLAND Marriage/Relationship: Death: 22nd Feb1872 - HOBART,Tasmania
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2 Oct 2010 08:44 |
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hi tony, yes that is him,thank you for all the info,with regard's to his family i cannot find his wife catherine after 1841 but she may have met someone else or maybe she followed samuel out there,if she did the only child she may have taken would be william the youngest one,catherine was born 1791 &william 1831, thank's martyn
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2 Oct 2010 09:06 |
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Hi Tony and thanks very much for the offer. My family all came from Boldre, Hampshire, England. Stephen Gatrell b c1794 (parents Thomas Gatrell and Hannah Gregory) was sent to Australia sometime before 1817. I know this because he is mentioned in a book by Rev.Comyn about Boldre in 1817 - he just says for stealing and got 7 years. Any extra info you could give me would be very much appreciated.
The name Gatrell has a variation of Gaterille which I have seen on a couple of occasions.
Thanks again
Anne
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TonyOz
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2 Oct 2010 12:12 |
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Hi Martyn.
Nothing showing up for a Catherine on any records. Perhaps she re-married in the U.K as you say?
Tony
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