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annies

annies Report 3 May 2010 09:07

Trying to find information on my Great Grandfather John McVey B1865 Married Mary Jane Devine B 1970, Had a son Edward Mc Vey, Born in 1886 and married MaryJane Mc Cormack in St Aloysius church, Glasgow 1/11/1907. I have no more inforation and have come to a dead end.I would appreciate any help

Katty1

Katty1 Report 3 May 2010 10:19

Hi

Found Edward living with his Grandparents

1891 Scotland Census
about Edward McVey
Name: Edward McVey
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relationship: G Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/6
Registration district: St Rollox
Civil parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 118 Parliamentary Rd
ED: 40
Household schedule number: 20
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1891_264
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Devine 50 born abt 1841, Ireland. Cab Driver
Rose Ann Devine 48 born abt 1843, Ireland
James Devine 10 born abt 1881 Glasgow
Patrick Devine 5 born abt 1886 Glasgow
John Devine 3 born abt 1888 Glasgow
Edward McVey 5


Katty1

Katty1 Report 3 May 2010 10:28

Looks like them again in 1901

1901 Scotland Census
about Edward Mcvey
Name: Edward Mcvey
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary I
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/6
Registration district: St Rollox
Civil parish: Glasgow Martyrs
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 118 Parliamentary Rd
Occupation: Apprentice Dresser
ED: 32
Household schedule number: 35
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1901_287
Household Members: Name Age
John Mcvey 36 born abt 1865, England. Pottery Dresser
Mary I Mcvey 33 born abt 1868, Glasgow
Edward Mcvey 14
Barbara Mcvey 11 born abt 1890, Glasgow
Maggie Mcvey 9 born abt 1892, Glasgow
Hugh Mcvey 6 born abt 1895, Glasgow
Rose Ann Mcvey 5 born abt 1896, Kirkcaldy, Fifeshire
Annie Mcvey 5mo born abt 1901, Glasgow
David Barn 31 boarder born abt 1870, Kirkcaldy Fife. Pottery Kilman


Katty1

Katty1 Report 3 May 2010 10:43

Also looks like Military Records for Edward on Ancestry

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about Edward Mcvey
Name: Edward Mcvey
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Age at Enlistment: 28
Birth Parish: Glasgow
Birth County: Lanark
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 2919
Number of Images: 5

Link

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=edward&gsln=McVey&_81004010=1886&msbpn=91050&msbpn_PInfo=8-%7c1652381%7c3257%7c3252%7c91007%7c91050&msbpn__ftp=Glasgow%2c+Scotland%2c+United+Kingdom&sbo=1&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&h=524210&recoff=1+2&db=BritishArmy&indiv=1

Aileen

Aileen Report 3 May 2010 10:49

Marriage for John and Mary Jane

1884 MCVAY JOHN DEVINE MARY JANE MILTON GLASGOW/LANARK

Date of marriage is 07/11/1884....St Joseph's Church Glasgow

John's parents given as Hugh (Carter) and Barbara McVay ms Schouler.

Mary jane's parents Edward (Cab Driver) and Rose Ann Devine ms Harvey

Aileen

Aileen Report 3 May 2010 11:00

Marriage for Hugh and Barbara

1859 MCVEY HUGH SCOULLER BARBARA GLASGOW CENTRAL DISTRICT GLASGOW/LANARK

Date of marriage 10/05/1859

Hugh's parents given as Hugh (Shoemaker) deceased and Maria McVey ms Cameron

Barbara's parents John (Flesher) deceased and Frances Schouller ...not sure about ms..may be Small

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 3 May 2010 11:11

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HUGH MCVEY Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: BARBARA SCOULLER Family
Marriage: 10 MAY 1859 Central District, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland



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1. JAMES MCVEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 06 FEB 1874 High Church, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

2. JAMIMA MCNEIL MCVEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 29 APR 1861 High Church, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

3. HUGH MCVEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 18 FEB 1863 High Church, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland



1891

Name: Hugh McVey
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/3
Registration district: Dennistoun
Civil parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 3 Balgray Bank St
Occupation: Potter
ED: 115
Household schedule number: 25
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1891_254
Household Members: Name Age
Hugh McVey 27
Margaret Ann McVey 25
Rose McVey 6
Barbara McVey 7M

Source Citation: Parish: Glasgow Barony; ED: 115; Page: 6; Line: 7; Roll CSSCT1891_254; Year: 1891.


1881

Name: John McVay
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Hugh
Mother's Name: Barbara
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Registration Number: 644/3
Registration district: Dennistoun
Civil parish: Glasgow Townhead
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 45 Villiers St
Occupation: Potter
ED: 81
Household schedule number: 48
Line: 22
Roll: cssct1881_221
Household Members: Name Age
Hugh McVay 44 b. Ireland
Barbara McVay 44 b. Edinburgh
Hugh McVay 17
John McVay 15
Mary McVay 13
Martha McVay 9

Source Citation: Parish: Glasgow Townhead; ED: 81; Page: 10; Line: 22; Roll cssct1881_221; Year: 1881.



EDIT

The above census has all the children born in England - so now I am not sure that the later census for Hugh tie in. From the IGI it looks like Hugh was born in Scotland.

The marriage certificate for Hugh and Barbara will be available on Scotlandspeople so you should be able to get their parents from that.

If you give us the details when you get the marriage we may be able to sort out whcich Hugh and Barbara are yours on the census records.


Aileen

Aileen Report 3 May 2010 11:37

Death for Barbara (Schouller) McVey

1911 SCOULLER BARBARA MCVEY F 73 ST ROLLOX GLASGOW CITY/LANARK

cert is signed by Martha Martin (daughter)

confirms mother's ms was Small.... also says mother was also Boyce and Douglas

Death for Frances (Small) Schouller

1860 SMALL FRANCES SCOULLER F GLASGOW CENTRAL DISTRICT GLASGOW CITY/LANARK

cert is signed by John Scouller (Son)

Parent's given as ? (Soldier) and Barbara Small ms Robertson

Aileen

Aileen Report 3 May 2010 12:04

Marriage for Frances Small

FRANCES SMALL OR DOUGLAS
Event(s):
Marriages:
Spouse: THOMAS BOYCE
Marriage:
16 JUN 1845 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

Aileen

Aileen Report 3 May 2010 13:57

The Devines 1901

Name: Edward Devine
Age: 61
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Roseann
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 644/6
Registration district: St Rollox
Civil parish: Glasgow Martyrs
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 118 Parliamentary Rd
Occupation: Cabmen (not Domestic)
ED: 32
Household schedule number: 18
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1901_287
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Devine 61
Roseann Devine 59
Patrick Devine 15
John Devine 13
Robina Devine 5

Aileen

Aileen Report 3 May 2010 14:08

Found this......I think it's Martha's birth

Martha McVeagh
Event(s):
Birth:
29 DEC 1870
Christening:
05 FEB 1871 St Joseph'S, Gateshead, Durham, England
Parents:
Father: Hugonis McVeagh
Mother: Barbara Sculler

Aileen

Aileen Report 3 May 2010 19:08

1871 census for the McVeys ...... how Barbara became Cur.....(that's what the original says too).....I don't know

All children except Hugh Jnr (Scotland) are given as born Gateshead

Name: Hugh McVay
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Cur
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Edmund
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Household schedule number: 81
Household Members:
Name Age
Hugh McVay 32
Cur McVay 31
Hugh McVay 8
Jno McVay 6
Mary McVay 2
Martha McVay 3 months
Jno Langton 21

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 May 2010 08:45

You have done well on this one Aileen - it would be nice if annies came back and gave us her comments on what you have found for her.

Aileen

Aileen Report 4 May 2010 10:36

I wonder if this is John's birth? The area is right, parents first names are right.....and I suppose Scouller could be mistaken for Russell if the original writing was difficult to read

Joannes McVay
Event(s):
Birth:
15 FEB 1865
Christening:
30 APR 1865 St Joseph'S, Gateshead, Durham, England
Parents:
Father: Hugh McVay Family
Mother: Barbara Russell

Aileen

Aileen Report 4 May 2010 10:42

Mary's birth

Maria McVeagh
Event(s):
Birth:
28 JAN 1869
Christening:
28 FEB 1869 St Joseph'S, Gateshead, Durham, England
Parents:
Father: Hugonis McVeagh
Mother: Barbara Sculler

Aileen

Aileen Report 5 May 2010 12:28

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Aileen

Aileen Report 6 May 2010 11:35

I wonder if this is the Scouller family but listed as Boyce.

1851 census

Name: Frances Boyce
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ayres B S, Buenos
Parish Number: 644/1
Civil parish: Glasgow College
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 90 Havannah
Occupation: Washer Woman
ED: 11
Page: 21 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 75
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1851_159
Household Members:
Name Age
Frances Boyce 45
Margt Boyce 18
John Boyce 16
Barbara Boyce 13

annies

annies Report 6 May 2010 22:23

I would be gratefull for any information as i am new to this and This is definitely them although besides my grandfather Edward I only recall hearing about Maggie and Hugh I dont recall the other namesMy dads brother was also called John and scouller was his second name when i asked about it years ago I was told it was a family name,so that line seems to be right as well.M y Dad and his family all immigrated to Aust. around 1949/50,and have all passed away so I do not have anyone I can obtain information from, .Would anyone have any idea what pottery place John may have worked or how I could find that out Thank you for any help youmay be able to give me regarding my famiy. or to steer me in the rightdirection.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 7 May 2010 08:56

There is some information about Glasgow potteries here

http://collections.glasgowmuseums.com/cld.html?cid=533642

John's address on his marriage entry may help identify which pottery he may have worked for.


For Statutory Scottish records, you should register with www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk The site is pay to view but very reasonably priced. 30 credits cost £6 - 1 credit to view search results and 5 to view / download register entries. Entries for births prior to 1909, marriages 1934 and deaths 1959 are available online. For more recent events you have to order certificates and this is more expensive. Statutory registration began in Scotland in 1855. Scottish birth certificate post 1860 give the date and place of the parents' marriage. Marriage certificates give the names of the bride and grooms parents including the mothers' maiden surnames also the occupations of the fathers and the age of the bride and groom.



annies

annies Report 7 May 2010 14:44

thank you I will try and register this weekend and see what I can find also about hugh Mc Vey because i dont think his dates match up .I will have to study them more I am really not sure what I am doing !!