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trying to find children of William/Mary Welch

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Jaimiesson

Jaimiesson Report 4 May 2010 11:47

trying to find the children of William Welch (1832) and Mary H Welch (1840)
have found one child Samuel born 1870
the family i think lived in St Luke/shoreditch/east london

jansmith

jansmith Report 4 May 2010 11:53

do you have any census info i haven't found them in 1871 census

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 12:03

Please double check your info as there is no one of those names in Shoreditch area.

PaulaW

PaulaW Report 4 May 2010 12:04

?? 1881

William WELCH Head M Male 32 London, Middlesex, England Coal Dealer
Selina WELCH Wife M Female 29 London, Middlesex, England Tailoress
John WELCH Son U Male 11 London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Saml. WELCH Son U Male 9 London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Harry WELCH Son U Male 6 London, Middlesex, England Scholar
George WELCH Son U Male 1 London, Middlesex, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 13 Portpool Lane
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341074
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0341 / 113
Page Number 8

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Marriages Mar 1869 (>99%)
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PEARSE Selina Shoreditch 1c 262
Ward Deborah Shoreditch 1c 262
Welch William Shoreditch 1c 262
WOOD Henry Dixon Shoreditch 1c 262


brummiejan

brummiejan Report 4 May 2010 12:05

Nor me!

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 12:05

This is the nearest birth I can find

Births Sep 1872 (>99%)
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Welch Samuel Joseph Mile End 1c 582

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 12:07

What do you actually have and where did you find Samuel?

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 12:09

1901 census - household transcription
Person: WELCH, Samuel
Address: 45, Great Arthur Street, St Luke, London
WELCH, Samuel Head Married M 30 1871 Carman
St Luke
London VIEW
WELCH, Esther Wife Married F 27 1874
St Luke
London VIEW
WELCH, Samuel Son Single M 8 1893
St Luke
London VIEW
WELCH, Esther Daughter Single F 6 1895
St Luke
London VIEW
WELCH, James Son M 3 1898
St Luke
London VIEW
WELCH, Maud Daughter F 0 (3 MOS) 1901
St Luke
London

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 12:11

This one is not yours but it made me laugh

WELCH, Samuel Head Married M 35 1866 Theatre Cornet Layer
Bermondsey
Surrey

Icecreams in the foyer?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 4 May 2010 12:14

Great occupation!

Getting back to the query - can't even find a Mary H. Welch anywhere!

Jan

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 4 May 2010 12:17

1881
Name: Samuel Mortimer Welch
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Thos.
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Saviour
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 46 48 & 50 Park St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Saviour Southwark
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Thos. Welch 36
Mary Ann Welch 32
Ellen Lydia Browning 11
Thos. William Browning 9
Samuel Mortimer Welch 4
Herbert Roland Welch 3
Florence Emily Welch 1


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This your Samuel

Jaimiesson

Jaimiesson Report 4 May 2010 12:25

i have
William Welch
dob-17/05/1832
baptism 11/06/1832
st leonards-shoreditch
source- IGI

Samuel Welch 1870
marriage cert
1890-holborn-b-1153
circa oct-nov-dec
married - Esther Kemp c1871

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 4 May 2010 12:28

So, where does Mary H come in? And why do you think Samuel is their son?
Jan

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 12:31

So looks like my 1901 for Samuel is correct.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 12:40

1911 census - household transcription
Person: WELCH, Samuel
Address: 76 Westmoreland Place Hoxton N
WELCH, Samuel Head Married M 40 1871 Grain Carman Clerkenwell VIEW
WELCH, Samuel Son Single M 18 1893 Bore Trade Worker St Lukes VIEW
WELCH, James Son Single M 13 1898 School St Lukes VIEW
WELCH, William Son M 8 1903 School St Lukes VIEW
WELCH, Esther Wife Married
20 years F 38 1873 Clerkenwell VIEW
WELCH, Esther Daughter Single F 16 1895 Belt Maker St Lukes VIEW
WELCH, Maudie Daughter Single F 10 1901 School St Lukes VIEW
WELCH, Scalie Daughter Single F 6 1905 School Hoxton

Jaimiesson

Jaimiesson Report 4 May 2010 13:02

thank you
for providing me with two members of this family that i did not know about .
being William/scalie
regards
still looking for siblings of Samuel 1871

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 13:08

I have checked igi and there are 2 possible births maybe 3
How do you connect Samuel to William and Mary with an exact date when we cannot find Samuel in 1871 1881or 1891 before his marriage?

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 13:13

Name: Samuel Welsh
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Spouse Name: Esther Kewb
Spouse Age: 18
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1890
Parish: St Paul, Clerkenwell
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington
Father Name: William Welsh

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 13:38

Clearly signed as Esther Kemp.
Samuel is 20 batchelor
Esther is 18 spinister

He is a carman, both living at Allen street.

Her father is James Kemp deceased.
His father is William also a carman

witnesses
Thomas Brennan
Maude Hill

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 13:47

They are not there 1891 but a large number of houses have ? so the enumerator was not able to record who was living there if at all.