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hello everyone i have gone quite brain dead. i have a thomas king who married a florence bell in 1910 hulme manchester, he was 22 and she was 21 thomas lived at 88 crown st hulme and his father was edward , to find edwards family eg his wife ,would i have to find a birth cert for thomas. many thanx mgt

Perhaps you could find Thomas with parents in 1891 or 1901 census

thank you michael

married 6 months, but does not state where in Manchester he was born.
1911 census - household transcription
Person: KING, Thomas
Address: 37 Wood St Hulme

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Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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KING, Thomas H20 M (M) Carter Wood Case Makers Manchester VIEW
KING, Florence Elizabeth Wife Married F 21 1890 Manchester VIEW
KING, William Edward Son M 0 1911 Manchester VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
23902 Reference:
RG14PN23902 RG78PN1380B RD464 SD4 ED37 SN248

Registration District:
Chorlton Sub District:
Hulme Enumeration District:
37 Parish:
South Manchester

Address:
37 Wood St Hulme County:
Lancashire



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thank you everyone for your help , i vanished for a while to search the census and when i returned i found you had done much better than i did. many thanks again for all your help x mgt

Did you find Thomas as a child on 1891 or 1901 census ?

no michael i didnt find anything. i went on the mormon census but it didnt come up with anything , i think i will have to buy some credits, thanks for your help though x mgt

Margaret,

I would try and find the birth cert for Thomas, the information on the marriage is only what he gave to the registrar. I have come across many that will say they have a father named "john Doe" when in fact they were illegitimate.

I noticed the 1911 result for Thomas & Florence I posted is also a little out on age they should be older, I also checked the address on the 1910 marriage........no family there. Will take a look at the 1891 for you.

Ann

Searching on Thomas King 1888 5+/- father Edward Lancashire, there is one result.


census - household transcription
Person: KING, Thomas
Address: 6, Robert Street, Salford

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Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
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image

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KING, Edward Head Married M 24 1867 Carter
Hulme
Lancashire VIEW
KING, Jane Wife Married F 28 1863
Birkenhead
Cheshire VIEW
KING, Thomas Son Single M 0 (5D) 1891
Salford
Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3216 Folio:
124 Page:
18

Registration District:
Salford Sub District:
Greengate Enumeration District:
12 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Stephens

Civil Parish:
Salford Municipal Borough:
Salford Address:
6, Robert Street, Salford County:
Lancashire



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1901 ?
Name: Thomas King
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Central
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 54
Household Members: Name Age
Edward King 34
Jane King 57 EDITED (image looks like 37)
Thomas King 10
James King 8
Annie King 6
Edward King 4
Elizabeth King 2

On the 1901 census Edward's occupation is Carter for Carrier Carman.......

thank you ann , that is some very interesting info you have found for me , i am very grateful to you and everyone else tonight. many thanks again x mgt

Possible marriage............
Edward King to Jane Blackmore in 1890 in Salford

many thanks to you to seaham lass x mgt

Going off the record that Ann found (birthplace Salford, age 0 in 1891) I would say this looks likely

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Births Jun 1891
King Thomas - Salford 8d 102

I also notice he was 22 in 1910 but only 20 in 1911

thank you michael i should be able to collect a good few certs from all this info x mgt

hi, can anyone find me any war records for edward king born sept 1867

hi can anyone tell me where i can start to find war records for edward and thomas king please
edward born salford sept 1867
thomas born salford 1891

war records are on ancestry and FindMyPast .............. both subscription sites.

Only about 30% of WW1 records for servicemen survived WW2, due to bomb and fire damage. Many of the surviving records are badly damaged, and may only consists ot 1 or 2 pages.

So one is very lucky if one does find anything at all.

I've had a quick look on ancestry, and don't see anything.

Edward of course is probably too old to have served in WW1