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Marian Hunts Tree(nee Camsey)

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Gee

Gee Report 15 Dec 2013 08:13


Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
about Norman Harry Bradford



Further info leading on from JoonieCloonie' info......


Name:Norman Harry Bradford & Sylvia May Bradford......both 'Ministers'

Gender:Male

Electoral Year:1980

State:Victoria

District:Chrisholm

Subdistrict:Box Hill <<<642 Elgar Road


There are other 'Bradford's' listed at the same address, which I presume are the children. I'll not post their names here as they may well be living

I will send them to you by PM

This looks to be his birth



England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005


Name:Norman H Bradford

Mother's Maiden Surname:Walker

Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1925

Registration District:Birmingham N

Inferred County:Warwickshire

Volume Number:6d

Page Number:672

Gee

Gee Report 15 Dec 2013 08:19


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960


Name:Mr N H Bradford

Gender:Male

Age:24

Birth Date:abt 1926

Departure Date:17 Mar 1950

Port of Departure:Liverpool, England

Destination Port:Sydney, Australia

Ship Name:Cheshire


Shipping Line:Orient Line


Address in the UK: 23 Shipley Grove, Weoley Castle, Birmingham


Is this the same passage that the Edwards family travelled?

Gee

Gee Report 15 Dec 2013 08:57

I'm pretty sure that this is the marriage of Norman Harry' parents



Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937


Name:Harry Bradford <<Woodworking machinist

Gender:Male

Birth Year:abt 1890

Marriage Date:21 Apr 1912

Marriage Age:22

Marriage Place:Hockley, All Saints, Warwickshire, England

Spouse:Janet Walker <<Chainmaker

Spouse Gender:Female

Spouse Marriage Age 21

Father:Samuel Bradford <<Woodworking machinist

Spouse's Father:Edward Walker <<Tool maker

Reference Number:DRO 39

Archive Roll:535



A link to OZ


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960


Name:Harry Bradford (Machinist) & Janet Bradford & infant Winifred

Gender:Male

Age:23

Birth Date:abt 1890

Departure Date:20 Mar 1913

Port of Departure:Liverpool, England

Destination Port:Adelaide, Australia

Ship Name:Irishman

Search Ship Database:Search the 'Irishman' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Shipping Line:White Star Line

Official Number:110511

Master:Thos Howell


JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 15 Dec 2013 14:47

I think the thing is at this point the historical information is not in question, we know who these people all are now, all are deceased except maybe Sylvia Bailey who married Norman Harry Bradford, and both Sylvia and Dorothy have children and grandchildren in Australia.

and I think it is already in the thread that Norman was the next passenger on the list to Australia after the Baileys and he married Sylvia.

In Marian's thread on the living people board I pointed out that the person who has the very large Ancestry-Mundia tree showing Sylvia and Dorothy also has a tree on this site.

The tree shows the descendants of the Bailey brothers Joseph (Sylvia and Dorothy) and William (Gordon and Joy in Marian's other thread) ... and Marian is the daughter of their sister Lydia.

with trees that large you can't tell how the person is related or whether they even know the living people in the tree

but it is worth a try.

Marian has read my messages, which included what I think is probably contact information for a granddaughter of Sylvia.


Now I did think, since they were Salvationists, maybe the Salvation Army in South Australia or Victoria would be an idea, to ask for help getting in touch with the children of Dorothy and Sylvia ?

Gee

Gee Report 15 Dec 2013 17:43

Joonie,, I agree BUT

The children of the couple I posted may and indeed look to be available online, in various forms



JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 15 Dec 2013 18:07

The Norman Bradford and Sylvia Bailey couple Gins?

In fact someone posted a list of hundreds of names in a message at Ancestry showing all their children and grandchildren, with birthdates and spouses, and those of Sylvia's sister Dorothy.

The discussion in question was actually about a branch of the Farmborough family in the United States !

I thought that was the most appalling violation of privacy so I didn't link to it here

... but it did provide all those names so I could search further in Australia :-)

and unfortunately the only seemingly sure thing it led to was contact information for one grandchild ...

Maybe if you can see other possible contact information you would PM it to Marian?

I went bug-eyed over it last night ... and in fact whitepages Australia is now telling me it has detected unusual activity from my IP address and now I have to do a captcha and wait 5 minutes every time I do a search ...

:-D

I do really suggest though that Marian contact the person right here at genes reunited who has the Australian Bradford and Williamson families in their tree, unless it is someone she already knows, but in that case it means she already knows what we have been finding out ...

Maybe she does but just needs contact information and hopefully what I found will do that ... or you can suggest something more Gins ?

Marian ? :-)

trying not to be confusing but it can be difficult ...

Gee

Gee Report 15 Dec 2013 18:45

Yes...I sent the info by PM, to Marian

Mariian

Mariian Report 15 Dec 2013 20:01

THANKS TO YOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP AND FORBEARANCE I CAN NOW PUT MORE ON MY TREE BEFORE I LOSE NOTES ETC THIS WEEK IS MY 80TH BIRTHDAY AND MY LOVELY FAMILY HAVE PLANNED A GRAND REUNION AND CELEBRATION PARTY..MY HUSBAND IS TRYING SO HARD TO CONCEAL ALL THE SURPRISES THAT ARE IN STORE FOR ME BUT HE IS 84 IT WILL BE ESPECIALLY GOOD TO SEE OUR GREAT GRAND DAUGHTER WHO WAS BORN THIS YEAR WEIGHING ONLY 3 LBS SHE IS THRIVING WELL THOUGH LOVE TO ALL AND
CHRISTMAS GREETINGS TO ALL WHO HAVE HELPED ME ESPECIALLY JUST NOW AS I STRUGGLE TO KEEP GOING LOVE AND BLESSINGS TO ALL MARIAN
HUNT MEE CAMSEY <3 :-) :-) <3

Gee

Gee Report 15 Dec 2013 20:11

Have a fab time

<3

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 15 Dec 2013 21:49

Well Marian, if this is just for your tree, that link I sent you, to the discussion at Ancestry, should keep you going into your next decade!!

If you are hoping to contact some of your cousins or their kids, I hope that works out for you.

Someone at that grand reunion will be a technical whiz who can help you with it all.

And they will all appreciate your hard work on their family history even if they are too young to think so now. Be sure to tell them some stories!

Have a wonderful time!