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John Lyon bap 01 Feb 1696 Kettering NTHS

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moonbi

moonbi Report 6 Apr 2011 00:30

Thanks Janey
the thing is, I'm trying to connect John Lyon, who married Sarah Holmes in Newton in the Willows 1720 to any others.

ie. I'm trying to find his siblings and hopefully his parents.
as all these ones who married in Newton in the Willows say their abode is Geddington
The family must have came from there?

But I just cant find the link yet.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 00:45

I was thinking the same thing about Geddington. So let's see what that gets us.

William MOLTEN otp, Elizabeth LYON otp, 13 jun 1735, Geddington

(Just for info I note that a King of Geddington and a Ladson of Geddington married in Newton-le-Willows in 1725, so there's another proximity indication.)

No other relevant female marriages.


Robert LYON of Geddington, Elizabeth BATES otp, 21 Dec 1710, Cottingham

Thomas LYON no parish shown, Martha HARVEY of Geddington, 25 Mar 1722, Little Oakley

Did you have this one? --

Thomas LION, no parish shown, Eliz WHITEHEAD, no parish shown, 31 Aug 1750, Cranford St Andrews BTs
(probably completely irrelevant, you just mentioned Crnaford somewhere)

No other relevant male marriages.

moonbi

moonbi Report 6 Apr 2011 00:56

Somewhere I have printed off a list of Geddington marriages from Free. Reg

I think I will have to revisit this and try again to connect. But from memory I know I couldnt link John 1695 to any of these parents.

Cant see anyone else who has looked into this family either.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 01:06

Just checking, you're recalling

John Lyon *of Kettering* to Sarah Holmes of Kettering 21 apr 1720 Newton-le-Willows

If you want to send me an email address I'll send you the L lists. ;)

moonbi

moonbi Report 6 Apr 2011 01:17

I dont have the Thomas Lion married 1750 to Elizabeth Whithead in my tree.
He could be the nephew of my John.

Yes I am recalling John Lyon *of Kettering* and Sarah both Buried in Cranford St John church yard 1757 and 1775 . After marrying in Newton they resided in Cranford St John.

Yes, I have found that many from Cranford were registered under Kettering because that was the main parish centre. Kettering covered all of these little villages, even Geddington and Newton in the willows. I dont think Geddington had a church of its own until about 20years later. But there was a nonconformist chapel there later, and a Lyon family is registered with it. but not the one I think. Since This John got married in church of England.

I think the heirarchy goes Peterborough, Kettering, village
So it gets a bit annoying.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 6 Apr 2011 01:38

When we visited Wellingborough a few years ago (from Canada) and dropped in on a church service, I believe the guest lecturer was the Bishop of Peterborough, so that sounds about right. ;)

moonbi

moonbi Report 6 Apr 2011 02:58

Geddington NTHS
Igi Batch 7718819

Robert Lyon and Elizabeth Bates married 1710 Cottingham
family
Susannah b 05 Apr 1707 bap 26 Apr 1707
Ursula bap 01 Dec 1711
Thomas bap 01 Dec1711 twins
Robert bap 24 Mar 1716
Joseph 14 Dec 1718

moonbi

moonbi Report 6 Apr 2011 03:16

Robert Lyon of Geddington married Ursula Freeman of Gretton
on 19 July 1658

His father in Jn
Her father is Everard Freeman

moonbi

moonbi Report 6 Apr 2011 05:35

Today I emailed 2 separate people who had posted on the Geddington Village message board.
Their queries related to the origins of the Lyon Yard in Wood Street Geddington, and to the family of Thomas Lyon.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 8 Apr 2011 22:58

You did get the files I sent ........ ?

moonbi

moonbi Report 10 Apr 2011 02:14

Janey

I did read three messages sent via GR that the file was coming.
did you send to my GR Personal Messages?


JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 10 Apr 2011 18:01

I didn't get a bounce notice -- gmail sent it so should receive it -- check your spam box. ;)

moonbi

moonbi Report 11 Apr 2011 01:27

Janey

I have done what you suggested ; No spam; so gone into Gmail main site to access my mail that way and cant find any mail from you.

cant see why its not there as I enlarged my mail download size quantity too!

I wonder if its not too much trouble, would you be kind to re send?

Annette

moonbi

moonbi Report 23 Apr 2011 04:24

I contacted a person who posted on the Geddington Village Message boards. and had a reply. and we have been in touch a few times back and forth with details.

I have been helping with their Lyon family, in hope that I can find a connection with mine.

they mentioned that one family group were quakers, so I have been looking in the nonconformist records on Familysearch. for any BMD
on Lyon with soundex check, and using the dates 1650 - 1720

Big thank you to all who have helped me recently.

moonbi

moonbi Report 13 May 2011 10:58

Two days ago I Sent a request to the Northamptonshire record archivist

asking them if it would be worthwhile searching for the parents of John Lyon about 1694'5, considering that the parish records for Cranford begin at 1695.

Gave them all the details of this man that I know of.

Still trying to confirm his parentage, because Im not sure if William and Ann are his parents.
I hope I get a reply soon

moonbi

moonbi Report 15 Jul 2011 07:48

I have received the results of my 2 hour search.
the father of my John Lyon bap 1696 seems to be John Lyon the baker of Kettering and his first wife Eleanor Baker who was a widow when he married her 12 June 1695 at Harrington. Nths. Marriage license bond 10 June 1695.
John went surety to the bond with William Bosworth. Peterborough License bonds.1695

this John the baker died in 1732/33 and a will has been found for him.

I am in the process of digesting the details and deciding what to do next. the will is in poor condition and unable to be photocopied due to a wax seal.

there is a mention of a sister Eleanor to my John who was baptised in 1696.

moonbi

moonbi Report 17 Jul 2011 08:15


now I see that I should stick with the correct spelling of LYON where ever possible.

John Lyon the baker of Kettering first marriage to Eleanor Baker at Harrington in 1695
Same man second marriage to Elizabeth Cheney at Harrington in 1707.

moonbi

moonbi Report 17 Jul 2011 08:27

now where and when was John the baker born?
my guess is he was born about 1670
so I am using that year as a guide.

suggested parents
John Lyon b 1636 Weekley and Anne Keepe of Ringstead who married 14 Apr 1662 in Denford.

suggested grandparent ancestors
John Lion abt 1604 of Weekley and Mary who married in 1634

suggested great grandparent ancestors
John Lyon abt 1580 , died 1641 and Elizabeth Cave who were married 12 Nov 1602 at St Mary the Virgin Weekley.

possible but debateable!

moonbi

moonbi Report 5 Aug 2011 00:06

August 1st 2011

sent search to NRO for a digital copy of the proved will for John Lyon the baker of Kettering 1732/33.

Will is 2 pages
and also
inventory of his possessions upon death 2 pages.

moonbi

moonbi Report 15 Aug 2011 04:49

A1
John Lyon Married Joan Peach on 06 Nov 1562 in Gretton, NTHS
Father of the below ??


A2 another John Lyon who married Alyce/Agnis and was Yoeman in Weekley.
Died in 1598 in Weekley and was buried on the 20 June 1598.

I cant find a definite marriage for this couple,
but there is a possibility it MAY be John LYne and Alice Kynning who married on the 26 Nov 1684 at Brington Nths.

John's will points to this couple as my link. children Alyce, Agnis, Mary, John.
Brothers Robert and Richard are mentioned in the will too.

B
John Lyon of Weekley was married in Weekley to Elizabeth Cave on 12 Nov 1602.

C
John Lyon bap 13 Jul 1608 at St Mary the Virgin Weekley; Vicar of Weekley, and Rector of Barnwell St Andrew. Died 1650/51 and Buried 26 Feb at All Hallows Church wellingborough Nths. Married to Mary....... in 1634 at Weekley Nths

D
John Lyon b1636 born Weekley, Rector of Little Oakley married Anne Keepe. Died 1672 Newton in the Willows.

E
John Lyon abt 1670 married Eleanor Baker, a widow.
He was the baker in Kettering who left the will.

F
John Lyon born 1696 Kettering Nths married Sarah Holmes
he died 1757