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just seen the sarah miller - that would very plausable. I think i'm going to get adelaide's birth certificate to clarify the miller name etc and see what other info that brings up - are there any other documents you think would help that I could send off for for now?

Polly is an alternative for Mary. Could Mary A Wilson - Adelaide's mother - have been known as Polly?

That's a possibility - it's only info from my mother's cousin, as she is significantly older than my mother, so I'll have to go back and relay info but I trust what everyone's found out so yeah most likely!

Mary A Wilson would have been a tad old by the time these visits would have been happening, I think ... she was born in the 1830s. ;)


I'd start with the birth cert to get Adelaide's mother's name. Then you'll know you're looking at the right marriage for the parents, and can get that certificate.

ooops!

yeah that's what I'll do next - thanks everyone so far! i'll post more on this thread when the cert arrives! :D

Where does the surname Miller come from?

Marriages Dec 1865
Adams Mary Ann Alverstoke 2b 901
Clifton Elizabeth Alverstoke 2b 901
Ette George Alverstoke 2b 901
Wilson John Edward Alverstoke 2b 901

Rose

From IGI:

MARY ANN ADAMS

Marriages:
Spouse: JOHN EDWARD WILSON
Marriage: 21 DEC 1865 Alverstoke, Hampshire, England

Rose

Um, Rachel's post on page 2:
"Also on the John Wilson marriage front I also found that marriage on FreeBMD at Alverstoke - married to a Mary Ann Miller in December 1865. I think I'll have to get Adelaide's birth certificate to clarify."

I was in a rush (still should be) and hadn't gone into the marriage, just that there was one.

And yet my Mary Ann Miller matched so well! Just goes to show that coincidences are sometimes just coincidences. ;)

So -- 1861

Name: Sarah A Adams
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Broadstairs, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Thanet St Peter

John Adams 55
Jane Adams 24
William Adams 17
George Adams 15
Richard Adams 13
Harriott Adams 11
Sarah A Adams 5


1851

Name: Mary Ann Adams
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Adams
Mother's name: Harriet Adams
Where born: Eastbourne, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Thanet St Peter
Ecclesiastical parish: Broadstairs

John Adams 45
Harriet Adams 35
Jane Adams 14
Mary Ann Adams 12
John Adams 8
William Adams 8
George Adams 6
Richard H Adams 4
Harriet S Adams 2
Deborah J Foot 11

I looked at that marriage too on Freebmd perhaps I just took your word for Mary Anns name JC ;)

jax

They did have a daughter called Mary Ann but the details don't fit.

1851 England Census
about Mary Ann Adams
Name: Mary Ann Adams
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Adams
Mother's name: Harriet Adams
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Eastbourne, Sussex, England
Registration district: Thanet
Sub-registration district: Ramsgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 1f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 79
Household Members: Name Age
John Adams 45
Harriet Adams 35
Jane Adams 14
Mary Ann Adams 12
John Adams 8
William Adams 8
George Adams 6
Richard H Adams 4
Harriet S Adams 2
Deborah J Foot 11

Rose

Wild goose chase I say lol

jax

It wasn't my word, jax, I was taking Rachel's word!

Rose, if you look at the 1851 I edited to add above, with the one extra bit included, it does fit -- Broadstairs was the ecclesiastial parish name. You know: where you grew up was where you were born ...

Ahhh yes I see it now thats why we dont take other peoples word for it then

Wonder where Rachel got Miller from?

jax

Reasonable match for the groom:

Name: John Edward Wilson
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 22 Sep 1839
Baptism/Christening Place: Bristol, Gloucester, England
Birth Date: 20 Oct 1823
Father's Name: James Wilson
Mother's Name: Jane Wilson
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01677-3 (extracted record)
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1749585
Reference Number: item 1 p 128
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html

Child Harriet in the 1851 census:

Name: Harriet Susanna Adams
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 23 Dec 1849
Baptism/Christening Place: St Peter, Kent, England
Father's Name: John Adams
Mother's Name: Harriet Adams
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I00438-9 (not sure about that one)
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1835666
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

but no marriage for parents and no other children.

And a clue to Sarah's father's name:

Births Sep 1856
Adams Sarah Ann Harris Thanet 2a 549

(The SAA born 1854 died in infancy)

Hi sorry if the Miller thing was wrong, I must've picked up on something wrong! I'm not 100% on how to use and read these sites so I guess that's why I'm asking for help!

I've sent off for the birth cert so hopefully after the xmas period I'll be able to put up the results, I think until I can get the name in concrete we can only speculate on the mother's side.

Absolutely - but we love to speculate. ;)

That way, when it turns out we're right, we can gloat!

Ha ha I like it! well hopefully you'll be able to gloat in a few weeks :)