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Dawn
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12 Feb 2011 19:41 |
Hi I have come to a dead end can anyone help. My great grandfather Robert John Pearce appears on the 1911 census record and gives his birth as 1857 born in Berks Windsor. I cannot find any records of this birth. Has anyone any ideas.
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Dawn
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BatMansDaughter
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12 Feb 2011 19:56 |
Hi Dawn,
Have you found him on previous census? We would need the info of his wife and children to trace him back and try to find a subsequent birth for him.
Do you have his marriage certificate??
Dee x
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12 Feb 2011 20:03 |
you can see why hes not on any census !
PEARCE, Robert Head Married M 54 1857 Quartermaster Rl Royal Sussex Ry Retired Army Officer Berks Windsor VIEW PEARCE, Alice Mary Wife Married 32 years F 49 1862 None Hampshire Gosport VIEW HEDINGHAM, Maude Alice Daughter Married 3 years F 29 1882 None Cork Puttevant VIEW PEARCE, Lucy Syndonia Daughter Single F 20 1891 None India Ferozepore VIEW PEARCE, May Daughter Single F 18 1893 None India Ferozepore VIEW PEARCE, Archie Hobbins Son Single M 16 1895 None Hampshire Gosport VIEW PEARCE, Dorothy Hazel Ammanda Daughter F 14 1897 School Sussex Brighton VIEW PEARCE, Doris Maida Daughter F 12 1899 School Hampshire Aldershot VIEW HEDINGHAM, George Reginald Grandson M 2 1909 Mauritius VIEW HEDINGHAM, Francis Robert Grandson M 1 1910 Mauritius VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 5537 Reference: RG14PN5537 RG78PN252 RD90 SD2 ED16 SN279 Registration District: Portsmouth Sub District: Kingston and East Southsea Enumeration District: 16 Parish: Portsmouth Address: 63 Francis Avenue Southsea County: Hampshire
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Dawn
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12 Feb 2011 20:06 |
Hi Dee
In 1901 his wife Alice Mary Pearce (Nee Hobbins) is down as Head of the house. I guess he was away in the Army at that time. I have his marriage cert he was married in Alverstoke on 7th Jan 1879 he gives his age as 22 and he was stationed in Aldershot at that time. I have just come up blank trying to find his birth. His children were Bertha, Robert, Doris, Dorothy, May Maude and Lucy any help in finding his birth reg would be greatly appreciated.
Dawn
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BatMansDaughter
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12 Feb 2011 20:08 |
Hi Dawn,
did he name his father on his marriage certificate and who were the witnesses?
Dee x
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patchem
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12 Feb 2011 20:09 |
Presumably: Marriages Mar 1879 xxx HOBBINS Alice Mary Alverstoke 2b 663 PALMER Louisa Jane Alverstoke 2b 663 xxx PEARCE Robert John Alverstoke 2b 663 Simmons Robert Alverstoke 2b 663 SMITH John Alverstoke 2b 663
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patchem
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12 Feb 2011 20:13 |
Some of his children definitely born here: Births Jun 1899 Pearce Doris Maida Farnham 2a 127
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12 Feb 2011 20:15 |
I wonder???
1861 England Census about John T Pearce Name: John T Pearce Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation: Adopted Son Gender: Male Where born: Windsor, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: New Windsor Ecclesiastical parish: Windsor St John County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Windsor Sub-registration district: Windsor ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 71 Household Members: Name Age Philip Spry 29 Sarah Spry 31 George Henry Spry 1 John T Pearce 5
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12 Feb 2011 20:20 |
1871 England Census about John S Pearce Name: John S Pearce Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation: Adopted Son Gender: Male Where born: Windsor, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: New Windsor Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: New Windsor County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Registration district: Windsor Sub-registration district: Windsor ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 105 Household Members: Name Age Phillip Spry 40 Sarah Spry 41 George H Spry 11 William Spry 7 Samuel Spry 4 Eliza M Spry 1 John S Pearce 15 >> errand boy.
The intial should be T for Thomas;
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Mar 1856 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PEARCE John Thomas Windsor 2c 389
Now whether he switched his name is ????
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Dawn
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12 Feb 2011 20:26 |
Hi Thanks every one. I have his marriage cert. Gives his father as Robert (surprise) Pearce. His occupation soldier again (surprise) The witness at their marriage was Lucretia who was Alice's sister. I really don't think he would have changed his name as the name Robert seems to run in the family. So I dont think he would have been adopted.
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12 Feb 2011 20:31 |
Just came across this
1871 England Census about Robert Pearce Name: Robert Pearce Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation: Soldier Gender: Male Where born: St Luke, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Farnborough County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Hartley Wintney Sub-registration district: Farnborough ED, institution, or vessel: Highlanders 91 Household schedule number: 1 He's unmarried............ so maybe keep him in mind?
Dee x
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Dawn
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12 Feb 2011 20:44 |
mmm could be but why wuld he put Windsor on the census I suppose its not too far from Middlesex. Thanks Dee
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BatMansDaughter
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12 Feb 2011 20:50 |
It's interesting that on these baptisms mother has both first names, yet the father just has his first name only!!
Mary Pearce India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 birth: 31 May 1892 residence: Bengal, India parents: Robert Pearce, Alice Mary
Mary Pearce India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 birth: 31 May 1892 residence: Indr, India parents: Robert Pearce, Alice Mary
Lucy Lyndonia Pearce India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 birth: 14 Nov 1890 residence: Bengal, India parents: Robert Pearce, Alice Mary
Lucy Lyndonia Pearce India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 birth: 14 Nov 1890 residence: Indr, India parents: Robert Pearce, Alice Mary
Lilian Adelaide Pearce India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 birth: 25 Feb 1888 residence: Bengal, India parents: Robert Pearce, Alice Mary
Lilian Adelaide Pearce India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 birth: 25 Feb 1888 residence: Indr, India parents: Robert Pearce, Alice Mary
Bertha Eveline Pearce India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 birth: 20 Apr 1886 residence: Bengal, India parents: Robert Pearce, Alice Mary
Bertha Eveline Pearce India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 residence: Indr, India parents: Robert Pearce, Alice Mary
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Dawn
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12 Feb 2011 21:23 |
I agree, but on the marriage cert it definitely has his name as Robert John he certainly got around though no wonder I am having problems. If I could find his birth cert then I could get details of his father an mother.
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Dawn
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25 Dec 2012 16:56 |
n I just thank everyone who helped me with this. I finally found him. Born in Old Windsor just outside Salford Lancashire As his father died when he was 5 years old he probably thought he was born in Windsor Berkshire, just goes to show don't give up. His father is now posing a problem,
Robert Pierce born 1831 don't know where my aunt thinks Ireland. Joined the 36th Regt of foot on 1846 enlisted at Newcastle upon Tyne. Married Mary Clews in the Isle of Man in 1854 had 3 children Robert, William Thomas and Elizabeth Caroline posted to \India in 1863 and died 1864 from smallpox. His wife Mary remarried a few months later in India. His children hated their stepfather and both Robert AND William joined the Army as soon as they were old enough to get away from him. Elizabeth married a man twice her age in India when she was only 14. Any ideas on tracing his birth, Kew tell me records were not kept for soldiers who died in service. Hope I have not hit a brick wall after all this.
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