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Smith Census Before 1911?

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Apr 2011 16:21

Here it is:

738 SMITH, Thomas Head Married M 28 1863 Butcher Aylesbury Buckinghamshire
738 SMITH, Ada Wife Married F 21 1870 New Cross London
738 WALSH, Patrick J Lodger Married M 32 1859 Clerk Stebbing Essex
738 WALSH, Marion Lodgers Wife Married F 32 1859 Harleston Norfolk
738 WALSH, Frederick Lodgers Son M 1 1890 Paddington London
738 ELLIS, Ada Boarder Single F 20 1871 Confectioners Assistant Accrington Lancashire
738 WHITE, Charlotte Boarder Single F 40 1851 Living On Own Means Holborn London

Registration District: Paddington Sub District: St Mary Paddington Enumeration District: 25 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Peters

Civil Parish: Paddington Municipal Borough:

Address: 96, Shirland Road, Paddington County: London

There is also a Richard and Olive Armstrong at the same address, but they are a different household.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Apr 2011 16:23

WHY delete your 1891 96 Shirland road enquiry was posting and the thread went WHOOSH

Gardener47

Gardener47 Report 2 Apr 2011 16:23

Thanks, not any relevance, that I know of.

Is their a marriage for Henry James Smith or Henry Walter Herbert Smith to Eliza? This is to confirm the 1901 Census where he is living with Eliza and 2 children, I am debating this still.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Apr 2011 16:25

Gardener, have you looked for a marriage yourself?

Gardener47

Gardener47 Report 2 Apr 2011 16:30

Have looked, with no success. But I just wondered if there is one on ancestry.com like his marriage to Eva in 1901?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Apr 2011 16:39

Afraid I can't see anything that matches.

Gardener47

Gardener47 Report 2 Apr 2011 17:25

That isn't our Henry Smith anyway because Henry W H died in Gloucester C. , a long time after my father-in-law died and in a totally wrong place! Our Henry died in Exmouth in 1939.

The search continues?

Gardener47

Gardener47 Report 17 Aug 2011 11:27

I decided to look through the birth records again and I put in a search for:

Henry James Smith
1872 +/- 1
London

I have found a birth in Pancras A-M-J 1872. I think this could be his birth. Just before I order the birth certificate I was wondering if there are any corresponding baptism records on ancestry.co.uk?? I have been looking but I cannot get very far because I am not a member.

I was also looking at what his mother could possibly be called. I noticed that his first born daughter was called Eva Alice. His mother-in-law went by the name Eva and I know that people name their first born child after the couples' mothers or fathers (depending on whether they have a boy or girl). So could his mother be called Alice ?

Many Thanks

Maddie

Maddie Report 17 Aug 2011 13:57

do you mean this one
View Record Henry Charles Smith 11 Nov 1872 James David Smith,
Sarah Smith St Pancras Old St Pancras Camden

Gardener47

Gardener47 Report 17 Aug 2011 15:32

Hi Maddie.
Sorry No, I am looking for a Henry James born in Pancras 1872. His father was Walter Smith (Silversmith).

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Aug 2011 18:54

Closest found:

Some slight possibles - what was his mother's name?

Gardener47

Gardener47 Report 20 Aug 2011 15:17

Hi MarieCeleste

I don't know Henry's mother's name. I was interested in whether their is a baptism record in (or around) Pancras.
All I know is that his father was Walter Smith a silversmith. (This is confirmed on Henry's marriage certificate, in 1901 Walter is deceased.)

I have a feeling his mother is called Alice because Henry's first daughter was called Eva Alice. (His wife's mother was known as Eva.)

tempest

tempest Report 20 Aug 2011 19:20

I've had a look and I cannot see a baptism that tallies with the father being a silversmith, sorry

Gardener47

Gardener47 Report 20 Aug 2011 19:26

oh :( I will have to keep looking and maybe order the birth certificate.

I have been looking but there are so man possibilities for his birth!!!

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 20 Aug 2011 19:44

It would be helpful if you copy out the exact wording on the birth cert please.

I wonder if adoption or a previous marriage are involved????

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 20 Aug 2011 19:54

A possible link here

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Walter Ecte Smith Name: Walter Ecte Smith
Record Type: Birth
Estimated Birth Date: 11 Jul 1880
Father's name: Walter Ecte Epton Smith A silversmith
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras
Borough: Camden
County: Middlesex

There is an address but it is crossed out 85 Winford road Islington added over it. Image difficult to read but a posible sibling

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 20 Aug 2011 20:09

this is possibly him

Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
Smith Walter Ede Pancras 1b 72


I want to see if he might take us to Henry

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 20 Aug 2011 20:13

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Walter Ede Smith Name: Walter Ede Smith
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1880
Baptism Date: 1 Aug 1880
Father's name: Walter Epton Ede Smith -a silversmith
Mother's name: Agnes Smith
Parish or Poor Law Union: Gray´s Inn Road St Jude
Borough: Camden

16 swinton? street

tempest

tempest Report 20 Aug 2011 20:15

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Walter Ede Smith (brewer)
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Spouse Name: Florence Amelia Richardson (ironer)
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 15 Apr 1900
Parish: St James the Great, Hackney
County: London
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Walter Epton Ede Smith (silversmith)
Spouse Father Name: Walter Richardson (bricklayer)

witnesses Walter Epton Ede Smith and Eliza Annie Mason

address for both Vine Cottage, Prout Road

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 20 Aug 2011 20:16

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Walter Ede Smith Name: Walter Ede Smith
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Spouse Name: Florence Amelia Richardson
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 15 Apr 1900
Parish: St James the Great, Hackney
County: London
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Walter Epton Ede Smith
Spouse Father Name: Walter Richardson

So this guy's father was alive april 1900