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Ben

My grandfather was john Joseph Bradford( who died in the war at relatively young age ) and my grandmother was Flo or Florence. They lived in Brewood Staffordshire with Flo dying around 1979.

There were a number of children from the union. Apart from Winnie and Kathleen there was a son, William ( Bill) and a daughter Dorothy ( my mother) . There may another daughter, possibly called Doris or Dot. At a young age my mother went to live with her grandfather, William Skinner at Littleham, Devon. William Skinner died in the late 1940's

David

Nan mentioned that her name may have been Kate or Kathleen Mansfield, she certainly lived into old age but i have no idea how she is related to me Nan.

After reading your other thread I would think that the birth of Clara Kate I posted above is NOT the right one. It seems more likely that the Kate you are looking for grew to adulthood so was perhaps an aunt by marriage as Flick has already suggested.

Kath. x

Thanks Kath

Not sure if this is the right one but could be a possibility for the sister your nan mentioned (if she means sister to Joseph Bradford):-

Birth:-

Name: BRADFORD, Clara Kate
Registration District: Cannock
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1887
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 6B
Page No: 480

and death:-

Name: BRADFORD, Clara Kate
Registration District: Cannock
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 4
Volume No: 6B
Page No: 331

This would need checking though as the death would have been before the 1891 census so she will not show on there.

You would need to look through marriages on FreeBMD for Elsie May and the others. Then you look for births of children using their married surname for the search and putting in maiden name Bradford.

Kath. x

Why on earth have you started another thread today, Ben?

It is just not fair to do so when you have been given ALL the info, and have seen it?

You will find that people avoid helping you in future, if you abuse their kindness

Hi Kath

I have ordered the wedding certificate for Joseph and Flossie as advised.

How would i go about finding information on their siblings, Elsie May, Mary Fellows and William Bradford.

My nan also seems to think there was a sister called Kate or Kathleen but i cant find any record of her.

Ben

Thankyou for all your help Kath

Hi Ben

I can only say that if you are certain Joseph married Flossie Skinner then the marriage certificate will confirm Joseph's middle name and then you will know if the other information you have been given today is correct or not.

Sorry - I don't know if there were convalescent homes in Devon or not but it seems Joseph died in Staffordshire if the death record found is correct. You could Google to see if you can find any convalescent homes. As for Flossie's occupation, I would think it was doubtful that you will be able to find that out unless someone in the family has any information to give you.

I have to leave the computer now as my son needs to use it (it's his so I can't complain, lol).

Good luck in your research.

Kath. x

I think this could be Flossie.........


1911 census - household transcription
Person: SKINNER, Florence
Address: 103 Exeter Road Exmouth

DUNFORD, Ernest Thomas Head Married
9 years M 39 1872 Bank Cashier Somerset Clevedon VIEW
DUNFORD, Florence Alice Wife Married F 35 1876 Dorset Portland VIEW
DUNFORD, Kenneth Ernest Son Single M 8 1903 Devon Exeter VIEW
DUNFORD, Leslie Donad Son Single M 5 1906 Devon Exmouth VIEW
WINZAR, Christian Olive Visitor Widow F 34 1877 Dorset Portland VIEW
SKINNER, Florence Servant Single F 15 1896 General Servant Domestic Devon Littleham VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
12577 Reference:
RG14PN12577 RG78PN722 RD270 SD1 ED6 SN134

Registration District:
St Thomas Sub District:
Exmouth Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Withycombe Raleigh

Address:
103 Exeter Road Exmouth County:
Devonshire

They probably just assumed her name was Florence.

Thankyou Kath, I notice from the census it says Josephs middle name is James not John which my nan thinks it was, however she was not sure.

I know after war my grandad was very ill and had a lot of operations and therefore could it be possible that my great grandad was maybe recovering in Devon. Were there convalescent homes for troops there.... is there any way of finding out Flossies occupation during the war??

Sorry for all these questions...

Possibly Mary's birth:-

Name: BRADFORD, Mary Fellows
Registration District: Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1895
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 6C
Page No: 86

Possibly Elsie's birth:-

Name: BRADFORD, Elsie May
Registration District: Wolverhampton
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1907
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 6B
Page No: 633

Possibly William Henry's birth:-

Name: BRADFORD, William Henry
Registration District: Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1903
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 6C
Page No: 72

Kath. x

It gives their approximate year of birth on the 1911 census record.

Mary Fellows Bradford born 1894/5
Elsie May Bradford born 1907/8
William Henry Bradford born 1902/3

Kath. x

Kath you are brilliant.... i will use Free BMD to try and trace Mary, Elsie and William Henry, is there any way of establishing when they were born??

If you look at the 1911 census that I posted for Joseph Bradford you will see that he had 2 sisters and a brother:-

Mary Fellows Bradford
Elsie May Bradford
William Henry Bradford.

You would need to check marriages to see if you can find marriages for any of them (I usually start looking from the date when they would be about 18 - 22)

If you don't have a subscription to a website like Findmypast or Ancestry then you can check out marriages on FreeBMD.

Kath. x

Kath you are a fountain of knowledge, i can not thank you and the other contributors enough.... my nan is going to be thrilled when I show her this information.

Do you know anything else about Joseph Bradford did he have any siblings etc and what happened to them???

Ben

The way I do it is just to copy and paste the information into a word document if you have Word on your computer (which most have).

Kath. x

Is there any way of printing off the information from the threads... once i am able to do this i will delete the other thread and keep one open.

Yes, all certificates can be bought from the General Register Office.

Kath. x

You could copy and paste the information from one thread and put it onto the other or just keep the information for yourself and start a new thread on "Find Living Relatives" and give some of the information already found.

Kath. x