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Not at the moment finding Eleanor/Helena on 1911 as a Turton

Nor found any likely marriage or death for her

looks like a good possibility, Glitter. According to other info posted Richard died in 1904. Could you possibly see if Eleanor is on the 1911? I suppose its also possible that she remarried as she would have still been fairly young when Richard died.

1901 poss if using middle name

Name: Charles Turton
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ealeanor Turton
Gender: Male
Where born: Kings Cross, London, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 9 Fife Terrace

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Barnsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 136
Piece: 184
Folio: 124
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Turton 44
Ealeanor Turton 36 - Kendal
Mary Ann Turton 7 - Niece



Helena gives her place of birth as Kendal on 1891

Class: RG13; Piece: 184; Folio: 124; Page: 20.



BUT occupation is not a match for 1891

Labourer RY - which is possibly railway

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can anyone locate them on the 1901 census?

many thanks vicci

Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)

CARLISLE Eleanor Bethnal Green 1c 649
TURTON Richard Bethnal Green 1c 649

Eleanor Carlisle - 3 Diss Street
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Spouse Name: Richard Tarton book edge guilder - 6 Diss Street
Spouse Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 19 Nov 1883
Parish: St Thomas, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Carlisle - book maker
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Tarton - optician

1891
Richard Chas Turton
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Helena Turton
Gender: Male
Where born: Clerkenwell, London, England

Civil parish: St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: City Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 231
Folio: 117
Page Number: 54
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Chas Turton 33
Helena Turton 29

from a tree on ancestry
Birth: Abt 1857 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex
Marriage: 19 Nov 1883
Death: Mar 1904 - Holborn
Parents: Thomas Turton, Eliza Turton
Spouse: Eleanor Carlisle

1881
Richard Turton
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eleanor Turton
Gender: Male
Where born: Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Luke Old St
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 11 Royley St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Porter

Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: Whitecross Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 365
Folio: 10
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Turton 24
Eleanor Turton 19

Richard Charles Turton b.1857 clerkenwell. Father was Thomas Turton, an optical glass grinder / worker. Trying to find a marraige for Richard. Richard is on the 1871 census at home with the family but not on the 1881.

I wonder if the family is linked?

1891 census

Address: 8, White Lion Buildings, White Lion Street, Clerkenwell

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation, Disability Where Born

BUSH, Charles Head Married M 61 1830 Porter London
BUSH, Emily Wife Married F 66 1825 Shoreditch London
BUSH, Henry Son Single M 22 1869 Painter Islington London

could be the right one. if the one on the 1891 census, birth year 1890 would be right. Father was also a labourer on Johns details.

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sorry will delete that post!

another possible, surname looks like Bush on original

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Henry Richard Buch
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 4 July 1890 or 1891
Baptism Date: 25 Nov 1891
Father's name: John Buch
Mother's name: Alice Buch
Parish or Poor Law Union: Pentonville St Silas
Borough: Islington


father a labourer, address 8 White Lion Street

can you find a baptism for Henry Bush b. 1892ish

thanks tempest. wow 7 deaths, thats so sad

on the 1911 census for Alice's marriage details it says 9 children born to marriage, 2 still alive, 7 have died

ancestry has these baptisms

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about John Bush Name: John Bush
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1884
Baptism Date: 27 Jul 1884
Father's name: John Bush
Mother's name: Alice Bush
Parish or Poor Law Union: Clerkenwell St John
Borough: Islington

address 2 providence Place Baldwin Gardens, Father a Labourer



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Charles Bush Name: Charles Bush
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 9 March 1893
Baptism Date: 26 Mar 1893
Father's name: John Bush
Mother's name: Alice Bush
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington

address 2 Diden St. Father a paviour


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Richard Bush Name: Richard Bush
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 3 April 1903
Baptism Date: 24 Apr 1903
Father's name: John Bush
Mother's name: Alice Bush
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hoxton St Mary
Borough: Hackney

Address Workhouse. Father a Road Paver




London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Ellen Bush Name: Ellen Bush
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 19 May 1905
Baptism Date: 18 Feb 1906
Father's name: John Bush
Mother's name: Alice Bush
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney

address city road workhouse. Father a pavior

1901 census Institution: St George's Holborn Union Workhouse School, Figgs Marsh London Road Mitcham

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

BUSH, Henry Scholar M 9 1892 N K