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Can't find family in 1911 census

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Elaine

Elaine Report 4 Aug 2011 16:53

My grandafter was born in 1900 in West Pelton.His name was Joseph Meadows.His parents were William and Mary. He had numerous brothers and sisters with names like Martha, Esther, Donald-all older than him. They are all therein 1901 census. There seems to be no recordof any of them in the 1911 census, anywhere. I know at some point - not sure when-his father (a miner) died. Have tried searching under mother's maiden name (McCabe) and the surname of her second husband (White) but can't find them.

Any ideas anyone?

Elaine

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 4 Aug 2011 17:02

1901 just for reference:

Name: Joseph Meadows
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Meadows
Mother's name: Mary Meadows
Gender: Male
Where born: West Pelton, Durham, England
Civil parish: Pelton
Ecclesiastical parish: West Pelton St Paul
Town: Middle Hold
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Chester Le Street
Sub-registration district: Chester le Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 260
Piece: 4699
Folio: 194
Page Number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
William Meadows 39 born Wigan, Lancashire
Mary Meadows 31 born Newcastle, Northumberland
John W Meadows 9
Esther Meadows 7
Mary Meadows 5
Florrie Meadows 3
Joseph Meadows 1
Donald Meadows 7 Months
Jennie McCabe 16

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 4 Aug 2011 17:11

Is this her marriage?

Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)
CROSSMAN Ernest Basford 7b 395
MEADOWS Elizabeth Stanion Basford 7b 395
MORRELL Mable Basford 7b 395
WHITE Thomas Basford 7b 39

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 4 Aug 2011 17:13

Possibly Mary and Esther??

WESTCOTT, Henry Moore Head M 38 1873 Master Mariner Durham Sunderland VIEW
WESTCOTT, Isabella Wife Married
9 years F 34 1877 Durham Wallsend VIEW
WESTCOTT, Henry Moore Son M 8 1903 At School Durham Sunderland VIEW
WESTCOTT, William Stanley Son M 1 1910 Durham Sunderland VIEW
WHITE, Esther Servant Single F 16 1895 Domestic Servant Durham Craghead VIEW
WHITE, Mary Servant Single F 14 1897 Domestic Servant West Pelton Durham VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
30147 Reference:
RG14PN30147 RG78PN1740 RD555 SD1 ED4 SN296

Registration District:
Sunderland Sub District:
Sunderland West Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
Sunderland

Address:
9 Azalea Avenue Sunderland County:
Durham

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 4 Aug 2011 17:30

:-S

Is this the marriage of William ?

Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
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Ambles Robert Durham 10a 584
Lothian Jane Durham 10a 584
McCabe Bridget Mary Durham 10a 584
Meadows William Durham 10a 584



Do you have the 1909 marriage cert ?

Elaine

Elaine Report 4 Aug 2011 17:38

Hi

Thanks Jonesy - I have that one. It's the 1911 one I can't find.They just seem to disappear. They stayed in the area because my gradad married my gran in 1921 and he lived in West Pelton then.

Yes that is the 1891 marriage certificate of William and Bridget Mary - known as Mary and I have it thanks.

Kind regards

Elaine

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 4 Aug 2011 17:47

Well still confused

If she is Bridget Mary, known as Mary,then why did she marry as Elizabeth

tempest

tempest Report 4 Aug 2011 17:54

is this her second marriage please?

BMD Search result details Civil Registration event: Marriage


Name: MEADOWS, Bridget Mary
Registration District: Sunderland
County: Durham
Year of Registration: 1906
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Volume No: 10A
Page No: 1113

MarriageFinder™: Bridget Mary Meadows married one of the following people

ROBSON, Edward Errington
WHITE, John
MURPHY, Mary Jane


Elaine

Elaine Report 4 Aug 2011 17:56

The info you sent about the marriage in Durhamin 1891 has her as Bridget Mary and him as William. I haven't mentioned an Elizabeth!!!!

Although Bridget Mary is on her marriage certificate, she was always known as Mary and records herself as Maryon the 1891 and 1901 census. I can't fin her birth either - she records herself on the 1891 and 1901 census as having been born in Newcatsle.I can only find two that would be right in Newcatsle and neither feels right in terms of family names . In the 1901 census her sister is living with her -Jennie McCabe aged 16.Can find no trace of her before 1901. Jennie is recorded as having been born in Ushaw Moor Durham about 1885 but can find no trace in 1891 census.

The McCabes are one of my sticking points in my family research!!!
Kind regards

Elaine

Elaine

Elaine Report 4 Aug 2011 18:01

Hi Tempest

It's a possibility thanks. However, he was known as Jim - but worth following up.

I ahevn't been ableto find her husband William'sdeath record to get a date so it's hard to know when she might have re-married. She was apparently a bit of a character - not in the nicest sense! I have a photo of her looking exactly like the granny in the Giles cartoons!

Thanks

Elaine

Elaine

Elaine Report 4 Aug 2011 18:03

Hi Brummijan

Thanks but the dates are out by a good 10 years.

Elaine

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 4 Aug 2011 18:07

I queried the name of Elizabeth becuase of the 1909 marriage posted but I now see that Tempest has found a marriage in 1906

Elaine

Elaine Report 4 Aug 2011 18:08

Hi Brummijan

Ignore my last post - have misread. Is this info from 1911 census in which case it could well be Esther and Mary and they would be using the surname White which would suggest theirmother had re-married to Jim White by then.

I don't think the marriage you found is right - the christian names are wrong.

Thanks for the help.

Elaine

tempest

tempest Report 4 Aug 2011 18:26

http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1399

confirms the marriage to John White with the additional other surname of McCabe

Surname: MEADOWS
Forename(s): Bridget M
Other surname: MCCABE

Elaine

Elaine Report 4 Aug 2011 18:34

Hi

That's helpful-will definitely follow that up

Still trawling 1911 cesus trying to find Joseph Meadows (White).No luck

Elaine

tempest

tempest Report 4 Aug 2011 19:35

I wonder if this is some of the children, there are 2 spaces for the parents names but these are blank

the 1901 was in "Middle Hold in Pelton" and on this the birth places are "Low Hold Yorks"

John W White born 1892 as was John W Meadows
F White born 1898 as was Florrie Meadows
J White born 1900 as was Joseph Meadows
D White born 1901 as was Donald Meadows


1911 census

Address: 21 Bell St Ryhope Sunderland

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

WHITE, John W Son Single M 19 1892 Run Rider Below Ground Grange Villa Yorks
WHITE, F Daughter F 13 1898 Grange Villa Yorks
WHITE, J Son M 11 1900 Low Hold Yorks
WHITE, D Son M 10 1901 Low Hold Yorks
GIBSON, Jane Boarder Married 3 years F 22 1889 Low Hold Yorks
GIBSON, James Boarder Married M 30 1881 Hewer Coal Below Ground Low Hold Yorks
GIBSON, George Boarder M 2 1909 Durham Ryhope


head of house on front is John White, form was completed by John W White

Mary

Mary Report 4 Aug 2011 21:03

Hi Tempest that sure looks like you have found them,Grange Villa is between the area of Stanley and Chester Le Street Durham.
No sign of parents or Donald Michael Meadows born 10/9/1900.

Maryb.

tempest

tempest Report 4 Aug 2011 21:51

Hi Maryb

is Donald not the "D White" on the 1911 census I posted?

not seeing Briget/ Mary or John/ Jim

Mary

Mary Report 5 Aug 2011 09:21

Yes Tempest,I see him now.


Maryb

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 5 Aug 2011 13:29

For ref..Is this Wm and family 1881...

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
James MEADOWS Head M Male 42 Wigan, Lancashire, England Coal Miner
Ester MEADOWS Wife M Female 55 Wigan, Lancashire, England
William MEADOWS Son U Male 19 Wigan, Lancashire, England Coal Miner
Lucy MEADOWS Daur Female 15 Wigan, Lancashire, England Scholar
Richard PRESCOT Lodger U Male 23 Chorley, Lancashire, England Coal Miner


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Source Information:
Dwelling Haswell Moor
Census Place Easington, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342194
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4965 / 23
Page Number 40