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25 Oct 2011 15:48 |
Don't know what happened to my Message but here it is again I have Jane/Jean Liddle married to John Dermaid 1846 Linlithgow West Lothian 51 census 122 High st Linlithgow Jean McDermaid 32 David Potter 30 Margaret potter 22 MARION COWEN 3 NIECE>> which we know is right
71 Census 136 High st Jane Liddle 53 George Liddle son 16 >>Illegit George McKay 44
81 census 186 High ST Jane McDiarmid 63 George Liddle s 26 George McKay 44
91 census 193 High St Jeane McDermaid 73 George Lddle 34 Cecilia Stanners 9
Can't find her in the 61 census and just found out on Scotlands People that George's birth certificate has as father George McKay but a line through it with illegit son put in at the side??
I'm hoping the 61 census might give a clue as to what was happening as she went from her married name to her maiden name then back again
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4 Oct 2011 17:12 |
Thank you for looking
I was hoping I could find his parents but may be Mary died in child birth and may be that's why William wasn't christened
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4 Oct 2011 16:55 |
If William wasn't christened he won't appear in the OPRs.
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4 Oct 2011 16:54 |
Thank you for that I do have George & Cecilia, Not got the marriages of the other Liddle's
It's just annoying when you know someone exists but you can't find them,
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4 Oct 2011 16:53 |
Results for: West Lothian, Scotland, British Isles Father: William Cowan, Mother: Margaret Liddel
1. ROBERT BOWIE COWAN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 18 NOV 1864 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland 2. AGNES COWAN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 19 MAY 1862 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland 3. HENRY DRYDON COWAN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 30 NOV 1859 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland 4. JOHN COWAN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 22 JUL 1855 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland
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4 Oct 2011 16:47 |
Results for: West Lothian, Scotland, British Isles Father: George Mcalpine, Mother: Cecelia Liddel
(These look like submitted records so you need to "prove" them yourself for accuracy)
1. William McALPINE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 1845 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland 2. Margaret McALPINE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 1842 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland 3. Francis McALPINE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 1848 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland 4. Marion McALPINE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Death: 17 FEB 1861 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland 5. George McALPINE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 1839 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland 6. Marion McALPINE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 1834 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland 7. Cecilia McALPINE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 1851 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland 8. Francis McALPINE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 1848 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland 9. George McALPINE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 1839 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland 10. JOHN MCALPIN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 05 JUN 1831 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland 11. Cecilia McALPINE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 1851 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland 12. Thomas McALPINE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 1836 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland
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4 Oct 2011 16:43 |
Submitted record - so you need to check it out.
Cecilia McALPINE Birth: 1851 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland Parents: Father: George McALPINE Family Mother: Cecilia Liddle
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4 Oct 2011 16:40 |
??? Possible marriages for your Liddles?
JANE LIDDLE Spouse: WILLIAM PETRIE Family Marriage: 17 FEB 1836 Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland
JANE LIDDLE Father: THOMAS LIDDLE Family Marriages: Spouse: JOHN DERMAID Family Marriage: 07 AUG 1846 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland
HELEN LIDDLE Marriages: Spouse: JOHN DUNLOPE Family Marriage: 10 AUG 1834 Livingston, West Lothian, Scotland
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Sylann
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4 Oct 2011 16:38 |
Still can't find anything on William in the 1851 census living with his grandparents
I've found out that Mary Liddell/Liddle married Archibald Johnston 31/1/1844
Looked on Scotlands people but as yet I can't find a birth for William or a death for his parents Mary & Archibald and nothing after the marriage of Mary & Archibald
Another pair of eyes could help in solving this mystery please
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4 Oct 2011 16:32 |
West Lothian, Scotland, British Isles Father: Thomas Liddel, Mother: Marion Murray
JEAN LIDDEL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 25 JAN 1818 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland
MARGARET FIFE LIDDEL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 02 MAR 1823 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland
MARY LIDDEL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 11 DEC 1825 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland
CECILIA LIDDEL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 01 OCT 1809 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland
ELIZABETH LIDDEL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 06 SEP 1812 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland
HELEN LIDDEL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 13 AUG 1815 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland
THOMAS LIDDLE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 26 JUL 1807 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland
WILLIAM LIDDEL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 09 JUL 1820 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland
All the above Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record
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31 Aug 2011 10:27 |
Thanks again
Thats interesting the Fife as I said we didn't have Margaret on our tree I know their are a lot of hidden siblings in my tree it's only when you get the later certificates after 1855 and it has their parents That has happened quite a few times
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31 Aug 2011 10:19 |
Cowan Liddle marriage.. Groom; WILLIAM COWAN Spouse: MARGARET FIFE LIDDLE
Marriage: 10 MAY 1840 Linlithgow, West Lothian,
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31 Aug 2011 10:12 |
Thank you for that as you say the other boys could be sons of Thomas and Marrion and the marriage looks a possibility
It gives me something to do whilst I'm struggling with Marion Murray's parents
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31 Aug 2011 09:59 |
Archie Johnston 1841....
Address: High Street Linlithgow CRICHTON Marion F 63 West Lothian NEILSON Robert M 25 Slater Journeyman West Lothian JOHNSTON Archd M 20 Slater Journeyman West Lothian
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31 Aug 2011 09:45 |
Possibly the Johnstone/Johnston connection Grooms Name: Archibald Johnstone Bride's Name: Mary Liddell Marriage Date: 31 Mar 1844 Marriage Place: Linlithgow,West Lothian,Scotland Groom's Father's Name: William Johnstone
Bride's Father's Name: Thomas Liddell
Mary's Christening Record... confirms above....
MARY LIDDEL Christening: 11 DEC 1825 Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland Parents: Father: THOMAS LIDDEL Family Mother: MARION MURRAY
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31 Aug 2011 09:19 |
Sylann...1841 Census...
1841 Census ..Liddles all Journey Man Shoemakers as were the Cowans who lived along the High St. James//Peter//John with respective families also listed..ages indicate possible sons of Thom snr.below.
Civil Parish: Linlithgow Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Linlithgow Address: High Street
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LIDDLE Thomas M 50 Tanner Journeyman West Lothian LIDDLE Marion F 50 West Lothian LIDDLE Thomas M 30 Shoemaker Journeyman LIDDLE Jean F 20 West Lothian LIDDLE William M 20 Shoemaker Journeyman LIDDLE Mary F 12
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31 Aug 2011 08:32 |
Thank you for your help I hadn't got Margaret liddle as a daughter so no wonder couldn't find them, so their could actually be other children to Thomas Liddle & Marion Murray I haven't got??
I did have the ones that have kindly been looked into for me, It gets a lot harder when you get back beyond the censuses and when the fathers are in the army.
Marion Murray's father Alexander was a soldier in the Fencibles all the details we have for marrion puts her Dof B as 1790 died 1873 aged 83 but we've just found a Marron Murray 1795 father Alexander a Riom soldier in the South Fencibles ??? all seems to fit apart from her age :-S
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30 Aug 2011 21:52 |
Thomas Liddle Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 20 Jul 1807 residence: 1807 —Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland parents: Thomas Liddle, Marrion Murray record title: Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 name: Thomas Liddle gender: Male baptism/christening date: 26 Jul 1807 baptism/christening place: , LINLITHGOW, WEST LOTHIAN, SCOTLAND birth date: 20 Jul 1807 father's name: Thomas Liddle mother's name: Marrion Murray indexing project (batch) number: C11668-8 system origin: Scotland-VR source film number: 1066633
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30 Aug 2011 20:51 |
Margaret Cowan is the daughter of William Cowan and Margaret Liddle
This is her marriage on Scotland's People in 1874:
1874 TURNBULL JOHN COWAN MARGARET LINLITHGOW /WEST LOTHIAN 668/00 0005
Too many William Johnston's but I think it is likely that he is the son of one of the Liddle's daughters.
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30 Aug 2011 19:38 |
Yes I have Nothing shows up really for Linlithgow but wondering if they weren't born there if Thomas was their father he was a journeyman shoemaker ?? To go into all of them it would cost a fortune thinking if it could be narrowed down
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