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Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 21 Sep 2011 15:34

Well not long till 3rd Oct. then hopefully you can check online!, might be results for Jax with it too, lol.

Chris :)

EllenS

EllenS Report 27 Feb 2013 16:39

Hi, can anyone else help me with this as it is slightly confusing (I have tried looking online but with no luck)

William Sapsford b.1856 or 1857 possibly 1853 Hatfield Heath Essex. Fathers name was Jacob Sapsford. I have Jacob marrying Sarah Challis. I need help to determine who Jacobs parents were from the records that was found some time ago.

All help much appreciated

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 27 Feb 2013 16:47

How confusing, there were two, probably cousins, baptised the same day

name: Jacob Sapsford
gender: Male
christening date: 22 Mar 1829
christening place: INDEPENDENT,HATFIELD HEATH,ESSEX,ENGLAND
birth date: 18 Feb 1829
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: George Sapsford
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary


name: Jacob Sapsford
gender: Male
christening date: 22 Mar 1829
christening place: INDEPENDENT,HATFIELD HEATH,ESSEX,ENGLAND
birth date: 11 Dec 1828
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Thomas Sapsford
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary

jax

jax Report 27 Feb 2013 16:53

Purchase the marriage cert for the fathers name

Marriages Jun 1848 (>99%)
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CHALLIS Sarah Dunmow 12 129
SAPSFORD Jacob Dunmow 12 129

EllenS

EllenS Report 27 Feb 2013 16:55

Thanks Jax and Beverley. I really hope they are the correct parents of William :-)

jax

jax Report 27 Feb 2013 17:22

From tree on Ancestry

William Sapsford
Birth 14 AUG 1853 in HATFIELD BROAD OAK Essex England

parents

Jacob Sapsford
1824 –
sarah Challis

EllenS

EllenS Report 27 Feb 2013 17:53

Thank you Jax. The only problem is that William did put his date of birth as 1856 born on the Heath but if I remember rightly there were no Williams with the fathers name as Jacob born in 1856. So it has to be my William born in 1853. Also I cant seem to find William in 1861-1871. He turns up in 1881- living at 8 cornwall road, Edmonton.

jax

jax Report 27 Feb 2013 18:28

I have just seen a tree on ancestry which I think is yours?? If so why have you added the 1861 and 1871 census for William Sapsford 1858 with parents named Isreal and Sarah?

EllenS

EllenS Report 27 Feb 2013 18:37

that one is wrong. i haven't been on there or here since 2011 and forgot to delete that one. Isreal and Sarah were the first one I thought were Williams parents going by the date of birth

EllenS

EllenS Report 27 Feb 2013 19:50

sorry Jax totally confused myself. I dont have the 1861-1871 census records for William on my tree on GR. I have records attached to the one on Ancestry but I cant view them. So I dont know?? :-S

EllenS

EllenS Report 27 Feb 2013 20:09

Just read through this thread and the 1861 census was found but I have just found a this
William Sapsford
Spouse:
Alice Sapsford
Birth:
abt 1853 - Hatfield Heath , Essex
Residence:

date - city, Essex, England
I dont think the William born in 1853 is mine?

jax

jax Report 28 Feb 2013 00:14

If you check Freebmd you will see there were two William Sapsford's born 1853

This could be your one in 1871 as the other one is still living with his parents

1871 England Census
about William Sapsford
Name: William Sapsford
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Hatfield Broad Oak, Essex, England
Civil parish: Hatfield Broad Oak
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Hatfield Heath
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: Dunmow
Sub-registration district: Hatfield
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Robinson 54
William Sapsford 19 >>>Ag Lab

You have the 1861 where he is living with mother and stepfather Ancestry has him born 1853 and looking at the image it looks more like 8 rather than 10

EllenS

EllenS Report 28 Feb 2013 09:48

Thank you Jax, I will send off for jacob and Sarah's marriage cert and find out who Jacob's father was. Thank you all for your help :-)

EllenS

EllenS Report 27 Mar 2013 09:29

Hi, I have just received Sarah and Jacobs marriage certificate and it states that the father of Jacob was Thomas Sapsford. Can anyone help me find Thomas Sapsford in the census please

EllenS

EllenS Report 27 Mar 2013 10:49

This is what I have found out so far:

Thomas Sapsford b.1802 Hatfield Broad Oak, Ag Lab
Mary (unknown) b.1802 Hallingbury
Jacob b.1828 Hatfield Heath
Thomas (Thomas and Marys son??)

Thomas Sapsford married Francis Elizabeth Cook in 1846 district of dunmow
Children were
James William Sapsford b.1848
Susannah
George
Elizabeth

Jacob married Sarah Challis

Jacob died in 1855

Have I got that correct?

EllenS

EllenS Report 27 Mar 2013 11:29

slightly confused. Thomas and Mary had their grandson James Sapsford with them in 1861. I thought Thomas Sapsford was the son of Thomas and Mary but looking at the census their was another James Sapsford b.1848 living with his parents Thomas and Francis. Who is the parents of James Sapsford b.1848 with Thomas and Mary?? :-S

There seem to be 2 James sapsford's born in 1848??

I am sure this is the correct one James Sapsford b.1848 Hatfield Broad Oak Married Elizabeth Ann Reynolds in 1868 district of dunmow. All I have to do is get a marriage cert for James and Elizabeth to find out his father.

EllenS

EllenS Report 1 Apr 2013 11:43

How do I find out who Thomas Sapsford bc1802 and Mary unknown b.c1802 are??

All help much appreciated

EllenS

EllenS Report 11 Apr 2013 10:09

Just received Jacob Sapsford's death cert and it states that a Mary Sapsford was present at the death of Jacob, so Mary must have been his mother