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scarey

scarey Report 7 Nov 2011 18:16

Thanks Helen
would love to know if there are any living descendants down under!

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 7 Nov 2011 02:31

Few more bits n pieces...might be some repeated, maybe I missed a bit of above

Death of a son of Alf Fredk & Sarah Ann Goodier nee HOLLIDAY:

Surname: MCMAHON
Given Names: Frederick Holliday
Father: Alfred Frede
Mother: Sarah Ann GOODIER
Death Place: MENT
Age: 51
Year: 1957
Reg Number: 10741
Event: D

Joseph, son of Joseph & Mary (nee CLARKE) died in 1970 aged 72 in Kew (reg 26266).
Lawrence, their other son, died in 1985 aged 82 also in Kew (reg 01532).

scarey

scarey Report 6 Nov 2011 18:18

Thanks joy
yes I know the problem from my plant side all the georges were born the same year with father namedThomas etc living in the same tiny town where still today they say every one in the town is a plant or married to one!

scarey

scarey Report 6 Nov 2011 18:15

Hei cherilyn
just when I thought I had gone as far as I could with this
well done
thankyou for that

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 Nov 2011 07:19

From NLA Trove newspaper

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) Tuesday 9 October 1934
Irene, only daughter of the late Stephen Watts McMahon and of Mrs. K. F. McMahon, Clarinda road, Essendon, to Thomas Alexander, second son of Captain and Mrs. T. A. Douglas, Laura street, Moonee Ponds.

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 6 Nov 2011 06:20

scarey,

That's why I do not assume, any person, until I have confirmation.

There are a number of trees, which have names that are the same as mine, but born a few years apart, and similar birth places - what they have done, is combined them to make 1 person, so, unfortunately their trees are incorrect. I did contact the owner of the 3 trees, but as yet no-one has amended them accordingly.

By the way, this happens regularly.

I wont be on here for awhile, but will check when I am back

Joy

scarey

scarey Report 5 Nov 2011 14:00

The one that had mary hayes as mother was in collingwood- the area where john and mary anns children were born. Eliza thorpe nee mcmahon had the same named parents and also lived in that area. perhpas I am just wanting it to fit so am ignoring the obcvious

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 5 Nov 2011 09:59

Hi scarey,

On page 2 MarieCelestes' possible death of John McMahon, states that we know that his father's name is Daniel from his marriage.

Strangely, the one I found today, was also born approx. the same year, that is why, we cannot verify which one is correct.

Both John McMahon deaths were in close proximity, in the inner suburbs of Melbourne.

The only was you can really find out who the correct John is, is to purchase a death certificate, they have a lot of information - usually they have parents names, where born, age, how long in colony, children living or deceased.

Joy

scarey

scarey Report 5 Nov 2011 08:00

dear joy
I thought we had discovered that his mothers surname was hayes or heyes

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 5 Nov 2011 07:17

Walt Saml's father was Samuel, looking at Walt Saml death record it looks like the person filling out his death, put his name instead of his fathers, or it could be mistranscribed!

Further to any McMahon siblings arriving in Australia, as we do not know John's mothers maiden name, it is all just possibilities, which cannot be used as factual.

Also found this death of a Jno McMahon, with fathers name Danl

Surname: McMahon
Given Names: Jno
Event: Death
Fathers Name: Danl McMahon
Mothers Name: Mary Conlon
Age: 81
Deathplace: Brunswick
Yr: 1914 [makes his birth about 1833]
Reg No: 8581

????sibling to the above Jno

Surname: Kennedy
Given Names: Catherine
Event: Death
Fathers Surname: McMahon
Fathers Names: Danl
Mothers Name: Mary Conlon
Age: 56
Deathplace: Brunswick
Yr: 1889 [makes her birth about 1833]
Reg No: 15375

her marriage

Surname: Kennedy
Given Names: Michael
Event: Marriage
Spouses Surname: McMahon
Spouses Given Names: Catherine
Yr: 1864
Reg No: 2834

their children all born in Brunswick,

Given Names: Mary
Event: Birth
Yr: 1865
Reg no: 7063

her death

Given Names: Mary
Event: Death
Mothers Name: Kate McMahon
Age: 1
Yr: 1867
Reg No: 749

Given Names: Margaret
Event: Birth
Yr: 1868
Reg No: 1179

Given Names: Catherine
Event: Birth
Yr: 1870
Reg No: 1062

Given Names: Michael
Event: Birth
Yr: 1871
Reg No: 14490

Given Names: John
Event: Birth
Yr: 1873
Reg No: 14784

Given Names: Bedelia
Event: Birth
Yr: 1875
Reg No: 14318

Given Names: Honora
Event: Birth
Yr: 1878
Reg No: 18314

scarey

scarey Report 4 Nov 2011 19:27

Hi Joy
I think we should have been looking for a walter anderson to a winters marriage.my error.

Is there anyway of finding out more about john mcmahons siblings and parents, it seems that we have eliza who went out to australia and an anastasia who was prehaps a sister in law. I have a possible martin born 1829 but not where they lived before john arrived in liverpool.He was there in 1856 at the time of his marriage to Mary Ann Smith

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 4 Nov 2011 09:32

Cant find a remarriage for Saml to ??Winters, as in a lot of cases, the person filling out the death certificates, just guestimates details!

below his is possible birth, death & parents marriage

Surname: Anderson
Given Names: Samuel
Event: Birth
Fathers Name: Samuel
Mothers Name: Jane Annan
Yr: 1866
Birthplace: Ballarat W
Yr: 1866
Reg No: 6193

Surname: Anderson
Given Names: Saml
Event: Death
Fathers Name: Saml
Mothers Name: Jane Corbett
Age: 48
Deathplace: Melbourne East
Yr: 1913
Reg No: 2436

Could Jane have been married previously

Surname: Anderson
Given Names: Samuel
Event: Marriage
Spouses Surname: Annan
Spouses Given Names: Jane
Yr: 1854
Reg No: 3575

???????Jane's death

Surname: Anderson
Given Names: Jane
Event: Death
Fathers Surname: Corbett
Fathers Names: Ebeneze
Mothers Name: Jane
Age: 50
Birthplace: Edin[burgh]
Yr: 1878
Reg No: 2473

scarey

scarey Report 3 Nov 2011 13:47

Dear Joy
what a lot to come back to
Haven't worked my way through it all yet, but was wondering about samlwalt.His mother died when he was 5 in 1895. I wonder if his father remarried a woman named winters.
will read through it all and perhaps come back again
thanks

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 29 Oct 2011 08:31

continued

Surname: Knuckey
Given Names: Annie
Event: Birth
Fathers Name: James
Mothers Name: Mary Ann Thorpe
Birthplace: Eaglehawk
Yr: 1889
Reg No: 20984

Surname: Knuckey
Given Names: Annie
Event: Death
Fathers Name: James
Mothers Names: Mary Ann Thorpe
Age: 6 [?months]
Deathplace: Eaglehawk
Yr: 1889
Reg No: 16275

Surname: KnuckeyGiven Names: Jos JnoEvent: BirthFathers Names: JamesMothers Names: Mary Ann ThorpeBirthplace: EaglehawkYr: 1891Reg No: 2700
Surname: KnuckeyGiven Names: Jos JnoEvent: MarriageSpouses Surname: RedfernSpouses Given Names: Violet LetitiaYr: 1915Reg No: 8205

Surname: Knuckey
Given Names: Joseph John
Event: Death
Fathers Names: John
Mothers Name: Mary Ann ThorpeDeathplace: Box Hill
Age: 86
Yr: 1977
Reg No: 18163

Surname: KnuckeyGiven Names: Josh [Joseph] DouglasEvent: BirthFathers Names: Jos JnoMothers Name: Violet Letitia RedfernBirthplace: TaturaYr: 1917Reg No: 32736
Surname: KnuckeyGiven Names: MelbaEvent: BirthFathers Name: Jos JnoMothers Name: Violet Letitia RedfernBirthplace: WarrnamboolYr: 1919Reg No: 31581
her death, marriage probably after 1942
Surname: VernonGiven Names: MelbaEvent: DeathFathers Name: Joseph JohnMothers Name: Violet Letitita RedfernDeathplace: RichmondAge: 60Yr: 1980Reg No: 04725
Surname: KnuckeyGiven Names: Violet IsmayEvent: BirthFathers Name: Jos JnoMothers Name: Violet Letitia RedfernBirthplace: WarrnamboolYr: 1916Reg No: 16534
have been unable to find this birth

Surname: KnuckeyGiven Names: JasEvent: DeathFathers Names: JasMothers Names: Mary Ann ThorpeAge: 3 WDeathplace: NerringYr: 1883Reg No: 10877

Inquest
Surname: Knuckey
Given Names: Jas
Age: 1 M
Deathplace: California Gully
Yr: 1883
Ref: 1272
Case: Accident Suffocated
Occ: Infant

Joy

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 29 Oct 2011 08:01

Bit more

Walter Saml Anderson signed up for WW1, you can see his record on page 26, at mappingouranzacs etc. you will see that his NOK is Aunt Kate Horn.

For your info only, not sure if you want these details

Surname: Thorpe
Given names: Mary Ann born California Gully
Event: Marriage
Spouses Surname: Knuckey born Maryborough
Spouses Given Names: Jas
Yr: 1882
Reg No: 3982

birth, deaths & marriages of children born

Surname: Knuckey
Given names: Florie
Event: Birth
Fathers Name: Jas
Mothers Name: Mary Ann Thorpe
Yr: 1882
Reg No: 22507

Surname: Knuckey
Given Names: Florrie
Event: Marriage
Spouses Surname: Parkinson
Spouses Given Names: Vivian Chas Lewis Clair
Yr: 1909
Reg No: 51

Surname: Parkinson
Given Names: Florrie
Event: Death
Fathers Surname: Knuckey
Fathers Name: Jas
Mothers Name: Mary Ann Thorpe
Age: 32
Deathplace: Warrnambool
Yr: 1915
Reg No: 11546

Surname: Parkinson
Given Names: Hy Jas
Event: Birth
Fathers Name: Vivian Chas Chew
Mothers Name: Florrie Knuckey
Birthplace: Warrnambool
Yr: 1911
Reg No: 32870

Surname: Parkinson
Given Names: Hy Jas
Event: Death
Fathers Name: Vivian Chas Chew
Mothers Name: Florrie Knuckey
Deathplace: Melbourne
Age: 35
Yr: 1946
Reg No: 11464

and his twin, see Reg. No. follow each other

Surname: Parkinson
Given Names: Orville Carroll
Event: Birth
Fathers Name: Vivian Chas Lew
Mothers Name: Florrie Knuckey
Birthplace: Warrnambool
Yr: 1911
Reg No: 32871

Surname: Parkinson
Given Names: Orville Carroll
Event: Death
Fathers Name: Vivian Chas Lew
Mothers Name: Florrie Knickey
Age: D
Yr: 1911
Reg No: 15130

Surname: Parkinson
Given Names: Vivian Jas
Event: Birth
Fathers Name: Vivian Chas Lew
Mothers Name: Florrie Knuckey
Birthplace: Eaglehawk
Yr: 1910
Reg No: 18866

Surname: Parkinson
Given Names: Vivian Jas
Event: Marriage
Spouses Surname: White
Spouses Given Names: Marie Vivian
Yr: 1934
Reg No: 471

Surname: Knuckey
Given Names: James
Event: Birth
Fathers Names: James
Mothers Name: Mary Ann Thorpe
Yr: 1884
Reg No: 24054

Surname: Knuckey
Given Names: James
Event: Death
Fathers Name: James
Mothers Name: Mary Ann Thorpe
Age: 15M
Deathplace: E Hawth<< mistranscribed [Eaglehawk]
Yr: 1886
Reg No: 1226

Surname: Knuckey
Given Names: Alfred William
Event: Birth
Fathers Names: James
Mothers Name: Mary Ann Thorpe
Birthplace: Eaglehawk
Yr: 1886
Reg No: 2487

Surname: Knuckey
Given Names: Alfred Wm
Event: Death
Fathers Name: Jas
Mothers Name: Mary Ann Thorpe
Age: 14M
Deathplace: Eaglehawk
Yr: 1887
Reg No: 6123

Surname: Knuckey
Given Names: Alfred
Event: Birth
Fathers Names: James
Mothers Names: Mary Ann Thorpe
Birthplace: Eaglehawk
Yr: 1898
Reg No: 18328

Surname: Knuckey
Given Names: Alfred
Event: Death
Fathers Name: Jas
MOthers Names: Mary Ann Thorpe
Age: D
Yr: 1898
Reg No: 11775

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 28 Oct 2011 22:50

More bits & pieces

Surname: McMahon
Given Names: Agnes
Event: Marriage
Spouses Surname: Kennedy
Spouses Names: Edmund Josh [Joseph]
Yr: 1920
Reg No: 12520

Surname: Kennedy
Given Names: Agnes
Event: Death
Fathers Surname: McMahon
Mothers Names: Mary Clarke
Deathplace: Surrey [Surrey Hills]
Age: 83
Reg No: 1979
Reg No: 21682

Surname: McMahon
Given Names: Eileen Mary
Event: Marriage
Spouses Surname: Eltringham
Spouses Names: Chas Thos
Yr: 1923
Reg No: 4387

Surname: Eltringham
Given Names: Eileen Mary
Event: Death
Fathers Name: Joseph
Mothers Name: Mary
Deathplace: Kew
Age: 88
Yr: 1985
Reg No: 04800

Surname: Eltringham
Given Names: Ena Wlfred
Event: Death
Fathers Name: Chas Thos
Mothers Names: Eileen Mary McMahon
Deathplace: Fairfield
Age: 8
Yr: 1942
Reg No: 4982

Surname: McMahon
Given Names: Jos
Event: Death
Fathers Name: Joseph
Mothers Name: Mary Clarke
Deathplace: Kew
Age: 72
Reg No: 1970
Reg No: 26266

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 28 Oct 2011 22:36

More bits & pieces!

Surname: Anderson
Given Names: Walt Saml
Event: Marriage
Spouses Surname: Semple
Spouses Given Names: Mabel
Yr: 1924
Reg No: 9142

?????death age adds up but wrong parents listed, both died in the same vicinity 5kms distance

Surname: Anderson
Given Names: Walter Samuel
Event: Death
Fathers Name: Walter Samuel
Mothers Name: Unk Winters
Deathplace: Cheltenham
Age: 81
Yr: 1971
Reg No: 30579

Death: Anderson
Given Names: Mabel
Event: Death
Fathers Name: Semple
Fathers Given Names: Janus F
Mothers Name: Eve Jacobs
Death Place: Mordialloc
Age: 72
Yr: 1968
Reg No: 23402

Surname: McMahon
Given Names: Alfred William
Event: Marriage
Spouses Surname: Stroud
Spouses Given Names: Alicia
Yr: 1928
Reg No: 381

Surname: McMahon
Given Names: Alfred Wm
Event: Death
Fathers Name: Alfred Fredk
Mothers Name: Sarah Ann G Holliday
Deathplace: Hampton
Age: 60
Yr: 1965
Reg No: 5559

scarey

scarey Report 27 Oct 2011 19:25

Thank you for that me joy
have found a match on GR for minnie watts so will see what comes of that
will be away from the pc for a few days but will check when I return if any more info has come to light

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 26 Oct 2011 23:37

Must have been having a very senior moment when I posted the last name, should have been Johnson and 2nd name Edna, so female, I have amended it.

Found these Inquests

Surname: McMahon
Names: John
Age: 49
Deathplace: Collingwood
Yr: 1882
Reg: 937
Case: Inflammation Lungs
Occupation: Traveller

Surname: Johnson
Names: Leslie George
Yr: 1968
Ref: 2177
Case: Broncho Pneumonia
Inquest Date: 1968.10.10
Other Details: 25.11.1968

Further to Roya, I am not sure, but it could be Royal Melbourne Hospital or Royal Park. As the above inquest doesn't give place of death, it is hard to say which one it is.

Joy

scarey

scarey Report 26 Oct 2011 14:21

Thanks Again Mejoy
two questions
I know very little about the geography of australia- though in the last couplwe of days I've learnt some place names in Victoria :-)
Where is Roya that leslie John died.

The last posting the last name was Chriss Enda Wfred Would that be male of female ? enda sounds female but wfred could be winifred or wilfred and chriss for christopher or christina?

what a lot of mcmahons in victoria!