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Eva J Pedersen

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Michael

Michael Report 28 Jan 2012 17:09

I am trying to find out anything regarding EJ Pedersen, who I believe was the second wife(?) of Conrad Pedersen,. She died in 1957 in Yeovil, Somerset.

I know that Conrad was living near there when he died in 1952 and his widow(?) E J Pedersen was named on his death certificate. Widow bracketed because I can find no record of their marriage as yet.

I know nothing more about EJ Pedersen but would very much like to find out more. Conrad was the eldest son of Christian Pedersen, who emigrated from Norway to Australia and then settled for 20 years in Liverpool. Conrad remained in Liverpool after the rest of the family went to Australia in 1892. His wife of 18 or so years, and the mother of his four sons, left him in about 1910/11 and moved in eventually with a Mr McAllister. At some stage Conrad met and settled with EJ (Pedersen - I do not know her maiden name or place of birth etc). I have it on 'family legend' that he was very happy with EJ for many years. I would dearly love to know more about her and her family. Conrad was my grandfather whom I never met. Can anyone help please?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 28 Jan 2012 17:13

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Eva J Pedersen Name: Eva J Pedersen
Birth Date: abt 1883
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1957
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Yeovil
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 7c
Page: 336

Gee

Gee Report 28 Jan 2012 17:15

For ref

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Conrad C Pedersen
Name: Conrad C Pedersen
Birth Date: 1870
Father's Name: Christian Pedersen
Mother's name: Emma C
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1870
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration number: 2605

Gee

Gee Report 28 Jan 2012 17:17

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Name: Conrad _arneman Pedersen
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1892
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 889

Wife Pauline Carlin

Michael

Michael Report 28 Jan 2012 17:17

Thanks - that's as far as I have got. She was listed on my grandfather's death certificate as 'wife'. I'd love to know more about her and her family.

Michael

Michael Report 28 Jan 2012 17:22

They could have been married abroad, or she may have been his 'common law wife'. Knowing a little about him I would have thought they did marry.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Jan 2012 17:24

Have you managed to work out when his first wife died ?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Jan 2012 17:32

1911 census
CAROLIN, Charles Head Married M 63 1848 Pensioned Customs Officer Liverpool Lanc VIEW
CAROLIN, Eliza Wife Married
40 years F 59 1852 Holyhead Anglesea VIEW
PEDERSEN, Conrad Son In Law Married M 40 1871 Glass Merchants Manager Sydney Australia VIEW
PEDERSEN, Egbert Grandson Single M 17 1894 Apprentice Timber Liverpool Lanc VIEW
PEDERSEN, Cyril Grandson Single M 16 1895 Apprentice Hardware Liverpool Lanc VIEW
PEDERSEN, Hallett Grandson Single M 13 1898 Student Liverpool Lanc VIEW
PEDERSEN, Rendell Grandson Single M 8 1903 School Liverpool Lanc VIEW
ELLAM, Lottie Servant Single F 22 1889 Domestic Loughboro Leicester VIEW
GEORGE, Polly Servant Single F 30 1881 Domestic Liverpool Lanc VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22400 Reference:
RG14PN22400 RG78PN1321 RD455 SD4 ED44 SN246

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
Walton Enumeration District:
44 Parish:
Walton on the Hill

Address:
4 Ashleigh Anfield Liverpool County:
Lancashire

so his wife must have been a Carolin surname

the Carolin,s had 3 children 2 died

Helen

Helen Report 28 Jan 2012 17:33

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Pauline Mcallister
Name: Pauline Mcallister
Birth Date: abt 1875
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1958
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Lancaster
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10c
Page: 724

Is this her death?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Jan 2012 17:35

1911 ??

MCALLISTER, Emma Head Married
8 years F 39 1872 Liverpool Lanc VIEW
MCALLISTER, Cyril Son M 6 1905 School Liverpool Lanc VIEW
MCALLISTER, Pauline Visitor Married
18 years F 36 1875 Liverpool Lanc VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22400 Reference:
RG14PN22400 RG78PN1321 RD455 SD4 ED44 SN231

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
Walton Enumeration District:
44 Parish:
Walton on the Hill

Address:
39 Priory Road Anfield Liverpool

4 children born and still alive

BUT she is Pedersen on image. Done a name correction

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Jan 2012 17:39

1901 wife was a Pauline
EDERSEN, Conrad Head Married M 30 1871 Manager Window Glass
Sydney Australia VIEW
PEDERSEN, Pauline Wife Married F 26 1875
Liverpool VIEW
PEDERSEN, Egbert Son Single M 7 1894
Liverpool VIEW
PEDERSEN, Cyril Son Single M 6 1895
Liverpool VIEW
PEDERSEN, Charles Son Single M 3 1898
Liverpool VIEW
Piece:
3499 Folio:
110 Page:
7 Registration District:
West Derby

Civil Parish:
West Derby Municipal Borough:
Address:
22, Cathedral Road, West Derby County:
Lancashire

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Jan 2012 17:42

misspelling
ame: Pauline Carlin
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1892
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 889

spouse Conrad _arneman Pedersen


Edit sorry Gins already posted this !

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Jan 2012 17:43

??

Marriages Dec 1902 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Drakeford Ellen Maud W. Derby 8b 809
McAllister Charles W. Derby 8b 809
NORBURY Emma W. Derby 8b 809
Preston Algernon Robert W. Derby 8b 809



1911 ?
MCALLISTER, John Head Married M 36 1875 Sterestyper Everton Liverpool VIEW
MCALLISTER, Ada Wife Married
10 years F 34 1877 Derby VIEW
MCALLISTER, Edith May Daughter F 9 1902 School Forest Gate London E VIEW
MCALLISTER, Charles Brother Married M 32 1879 Manager Everton Liverpool VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9380 Reference:
RG14PN9380 RG78PN506 RD188 SD2 ED7 SN234

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
Forest Gate Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
West Ham

Address:
23 Disraeli Road Forest Gate

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Jan 2012 17:45

would think then that Eva was a common law wife.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Jan 2012 17:47

Certainly looking that way at the moment.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Jan 2012 18:19

Name: PEDERSEN, Egbert Conrad
Registration District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: Help 8B
Page No: Help 594A

Name: PEDERSEN, Egbert C
Registration District: Help West Derby
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1918
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Watson
Volume No: Help 8B
Page No: Help 1165

Name: WATSON, Gertrude
Registration District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1918
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Pedersen
Volume No: 8B
Page No: 1165


will of Egbert Conrad Pedersen of Engenni Greenfield Road Little Sutton Cheshire died 29th June 1928 at Axim Gold Coast Colony West Africa.Probate Liverpool 1st Feb to Gertrude Pederson widow effects £5

Michael

Michael Report 29 Jan 2012 11:52

Thank you for your efforts. I still am not really any nearer to EJ Pedersen, found on Conrad's death certificate and listed as 'wife'. Conrad's sons were all born in Liverpool - that is all correct. His first wife Pauline died a few years after he did after living for about 40 years with Charles McAllister whom she did eventually marry in 1952 - the year Conrad died. I have an Eva J Pedersen, who could well be the same lady, who died in 1957 (2nd quarter).

I was hoping to find out more about her. Very many thanks for your efforts.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jan 2012 12:00

So would seem that his wife Pauline was informed Conrad had died which then left her free to marry. So this goes back to Eva and Conrad not being married as he was still married and didn't divorce.

Unless someone in the family has any info on Eva.s surname then you probably wont find any more on her

Michael

Michael Report 29 Jan 2012 12:05

Thanks again.
This snippet will explain why I could find no reference to Uncle Bert's death in UK BMD records. How do you discover the contents of wills? This left Gertie with so very little.

"will of Egbert Conrad Pedersen of Engenni Greenfield Road Little Sutton Cheshire died 29th June 1928 at Axim Gold Coast Colony West Africa.Probate Liverpool 1st Feb to Gertrude Pederson widow effects £5"

Michael

Michael Report 29 Jan 2012 12:14

Glitter-Baby - I had spotted that mistake in the transcript - it took me a long time to find her because of that. Certainly she was Pedersen at that stage. She didn't become McAllister until 1952. I did contact Genesreunited months ago about this transcript error. Glad someone else has spotted it!

Mike

"BUT she is Pedersen on image. Done a name correction"